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Old 08-04-2008, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: Cheapest DC-DC converters. 650w for $100 you say?

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400watt pc power supplys are cheap brand new, second hand could probably pick them up for a few dollars. And I know ive got a few spare lying around the place like im sure many people here would aswell.
Would these not be a good item to hack to provide our power source for our 12V?
PC powersupplies are larger and have less current. They have a hard time with inductive loads or current spikes and trip into protection to easy. A 400w psu might only have 150-200w of that on the +12v rail. All the extra rails, 3.3v, 5v, -5, -12, ect will be un used. Some have low voltage shutoff and will shut down when the line voltage drops. They won't handle battery sag either. They are not power factor correcting until you get into the expencive models.

I have mentioned that most smps powersupplies will run on dc but how well is any ones guess. I happened to have one of these power express supplies kicking around from my old computer and gave it a go. I was suprised how well it took my abuse. For the price I don't think there's much else out there.
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: Cheapest DC-DC converters. 650w for $100 you say?

Actually the Thermal Take 650W supply only has 12 volt outputs. It is made to supply power to dual graphics cards. I'm planning on using mine with a 12v battery to avoid the crowbar foldover. Definitely plan on fusing both 12v circuits.

The power supply is dual voltage rated, and I'm running it with a 300vdc bus so I think I'm safe from having it shut down from over voltage. The people running 144 volts or less may have trouble. I wouldn't rely exclusively on the power supply, I'd use it as a replacement for an alternator.

I used a 12v 10a supply to run a 100w spotlight. I'd have to get the bulb warmed up on 5vdc, then click to 12vdc. If I tried to just plug in to 12v, the supply would crowbar and I'd have to shut it off and retry. When the supply crowbars, it may be shorting out the output. If you are connected to a battery when this happens it may short your battery, or atleast cause a serious battery drain.

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PC powersupplies are larger and have less current. They have a hard time with inductive loads or current spikes and trip into protection to easy. A 400w psu might only have 150-200w of that on the +12v rail. All the extra rails, 3.3v, 5v, -5, -12, ect will be un used. Some have low voltage shutoff and will shut down when the line voltage drops. They won't handle battery sag either. They are not power factor correcting until you get into the expencive models.

I have mentioned that most smps powersupplies will run on dc but how well is any ones guess. I happened to have one of these power express supplies kicking around from my old computer and gave it a go. I was suprised how well it took my abuse. For the price I don't think there's much else out there.
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: Cheapest DC-DC converters. 650w for $100 you say?

Who wants to make a few bucks? :-)

I am closing in on getting my built from scratch 72v trike to "test drive without the body" stage.
Does someone want to convert one for me for a fair markup?
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Cheapest DC-DC converters. 650w for $100 you say?

Are you talking about the Powerexpress or ATX supplies? I'm pretty sure hyper24 is talking about ATX power supplies. I know the Powerexpress psus are a single 12v. I had my 250w pxp (now official forum acronym) running down to 60v. The 144v guys shouldn't have any issues with it.
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Who wants to make a few bucks? :-)

I am closing in on getting my built from scratch 72v trike to "test drive without the body" stage.
Does someone want to convert one for me for a fair markup?
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I would be able to do it. Have the unit shipped to me and I'll make the mod. I'm waiting the a 450w guinea pig from Impact1 and I've heard the 650w is the same. I already figured out the 250w. Any fee will be nominal. This is for you guys to save money not for me to profit. Buy me dinner and we're good.
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Thanks Lazzer, can you give me the model number for the 650 please, Ill grab one from Ebay.

Name the place, Dinners on me.

Also, I have a fairly well stocked fab shop with 2 full time guys. if you (or anyone) needs a good deal on welding etc, let me know.
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Thanks Lazzer, can you give me the model number for the 650 please, Ill grab one from Ebay.

Name the place, Dinners on me.

Also, I have a fairly well stocked fab shop with 2 full time guys. if you (or anyone) needs a good deal on welding etc, let me know.
Tom
Do you have machining capabilities? Mill, cnc, etc. I need some aluminum machining and I need some sheet metal covers quoted also but I haven't finished that design. The aluminum parts I have prints for.
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No, just welders, drill press etc.
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Right now I'm working on something BIG!
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: Cheapest DC-DC converters. 650w for $100 you say?

its been a week with no activity in this thread, whats going on?

has anyone made progress modding the thermaltake 450 or 650?

what big thing is lazzer working on~~??
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