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01-25-2009, 08:54 PM
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Re: David85's saturn SL1 conversion
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Thanks for the welcome.
Since my car can be parked on the top of the parking garage at work,
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Sorry this is off thread a bit but I have a good answer for Josh and maybe others.
Josh,
If you are in a company parking garage see if there couldn't be an outlet made available for charging while you work.
It could be, if presented Greenly (hey a new word) to your company, that they would allow this hook up for no charge. But even if you had to pay extra for it, you would probably end up with a reserved spot.
For the rest of us, remember that many flat lots with lights have outlets as well.
Just a wild idea,
Jim
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01-26-2009, 07:30 AM
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Re: David85's saturn SL1 conversion
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Sorry this is off thread a bit but I have a good answer for Josh and maybe others.
Josh,
If you are in a company parking garage see if there couldn't be an outlet made available for charging while you work.
It could be, if presented Greenly (hey a new word) to your company, that they would allow this hook up for no charge. But even if you had to pay extra for it, you would probably end up with a reserved spot.
For the rest of us, remember that many flat lots with lights have outlets as well.
Just a wild idea,
Jim
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Haha, very true. Lucky for me the top level is usually empty and the front row parking is really close to stairs/elevators.
I will keep an eye out to see if they have a plug near by i could use but im pretty sure the politics would prohibit that.
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01-26-2009, 07:54 AM
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Re: David85's saturn SL1 conversion
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I will keep an eye out to see if they have a plug near by i could use but im pretty sure the politics would prohibit that.
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Sorry off topic again But . . .
LORDY! ! ! ! don't take current without permission.
If you offer to pay and make it known that you are paying a fee for the use, maybe the politics would go away.
It might even cause a stir of interest when people find out how little electrics cost to operate after you applied your labor and money into the conversion.
If this goes on we'll start a new thread
Jim
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01-26-2009, 07:57 AM
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Re: David85's saturn SL1 conversion
David,
Any plans on using solar energy?
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01-26-2009, 12:08 PM
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Re: David85's saturn SL1 conversion
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David,
Any plans on using solar energy?
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Long term it is planned for the house and that would offset the recharge cost of the car as well as lighting and home heating costs, but for now I'm just working on finishing the car. I have no plans to put Solar Power directly on the car, but you never know what might happen in the years ahead once oil gets pricy again and development in PV cells accelerates.
The reason why I asked if you knew your electricity rates is because here its about $0.08/kwh (CAD) my car will have 28.8kwh on paper, and I'll add another 10% for efficiency loss. That means for a complete recharge, it would cost me $2.53 to go the expected 100+ miles.
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01-26-2009, 07:50 PM
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Re: David85's saturn SL1 conversion
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The reason why I asked if you knew your electricity rates is because here its about $0.08/kwh (CAD) my car will have 28.8kwh on paper, and I'll add another 10% for efficiency loss. That means for a complete recharge, it would cost me $2.53 to go the expected 100+ miles.
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wow $2.53 is sounding really nice compared to my $1.75~36miles.
David the parts your taking off the Saturn what are your plans for them, you got another Saturn to use them for spares or you gonna hock em?
I also was curious what are your plans for the transmission? I take it your going to mount the Motor directly to the transmission or are you going to rig up a flywheel and clutch?
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01-26-2009, 08:11 PM
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Re: David85's saturn SL1 conversion
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... if you knew your electricity rates is because here its about $0.08/kwh (CAD) my car will have 28.8kwh on paper,
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The rate in NM is about .09/kWhr. The electricity from my PV system I get PAID a gross of $.13/kWhr, PLUS net metering my meter goes backward! very cool really.
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01-26-2009, 09:58 PM
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Re: David85's saturn SL1 conversion
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wow $2.53 is sounding really nice compared to my $1.75~36miles.
David the parts your taking off the Saturn what are your plans for them, you got another Saturn to use them for spares or you gonna hock em?
I also was curious what are your plans for the transmission? I take it your going to mount the Motor directly to the transmission or are you going to rig up a flywheel and clutch?
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Operating cost is one thing, but the car will also be practically zero maintinance if I can get it built the way I want it. The motor will be air cooled and as sealed bearings, batteries never vent, no coolant or oil changes, and if I get the right motor, the brakes will last indefinately thanks to Regenerative Braking.
This is my only saturn, so I have no use for the engine, air intake ducts, fuel system and other odds and ends. I'll try to sell them locally if I can, but not much hope of that. Why you ask?
I could couple the motor directly to the transmission shaft, but I would rather keep the clutch for this build. Upshifting is faster that way and I think it could make the car more fun to drive for those times that I "get ont it".
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01-26-2009, 09:59 PM
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Re: David85's saturn SL1 conversion
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The rate in NM is about .09/kWhr. The electricity from my PV system I get PAID a gross of $.13/kWhr, PLUS net metering my meter goes backward! very cool really.
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You are way ahead of the pack, dtbaker
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01-27-2009, 10:38 AM
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Re: David85's saturn SL1 conversion
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This is my only saturn, so I have no use for the engine, air intake ducts, fuel system and other odds and ends. I'll try to sell them locally if I can, but not much hope of that. Why you ask?
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Some Parts may have some interest to me/brother (muffler, cat other misc parts)
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Originally Posted by Jimdear2
I could couple the motor directly to the transmission shaft, but I would rather keep the clutch for this build. Upshifting is faster that way and I think it could make the car more fun to drive for those times that I "get ont it".
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Good man, haha.
I always thought it was better to mount the motor to a makeshift flywheel so you could clutch and drive it like a normal car. The nice thing about it would be little to no clutch wear because you won't need to ride the clutch at start off. Plus that would put less wear on the transmission when shifting and give better power for hills. That was always my dream of building an electric car but i don't have the money to build something like this.
What kind of RPM will your motor do?
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