[EVDL] LionEV

EVDL List · #1 01-15-2008, 07:17 PM

My story:
http://austinfarm.org/homegrown/downloads/lionev.txt

I may be adding more detail.

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EVDL List · #2 01-15-2008, 07:47 PM

I hope you get something back for such a bum turn of events. I wish I
could help.

[quote] Willie McKemie <xxx@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> My story:
> http://austinfarm.org/homegrown/downloads/lionev.txt
>
> I may be adding more detail.

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EVDL List · #3 01-15-2008, 09:08 PM

Get all personal details on the owners possible. $30 sometimes is enough.
This will help them from escaping underground when you sue them.

File a law suit aspap AND contact the attorney general in the state they reside.

You do not need a full-time lawyer to file. But just have a name on there if possible so you make them think you have one.

Get 30minutes of leagle advise on what basis to file the lawsuit.

Also contact the BBB and get any back-up information you can to add to the suit.

Arak Leatham - Web and Desktop Systems Developer> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:28:46 -0600> From: xxx@xxx.xxx> To: xxx@xxx.xxx.edu> Subject: [EVDL] LionEV> > My story:> http://austinfarm.org/homegrown/downloads/lionev.txt> > I may be adding more detail.> > -- > Willie, ONWARD! Through the fog!> http://counter.li.org Linux registered user #228836 since 1995> Debian3.1/GNU/Linux system uptime 31 days 13 hours 26 minutes> > _______________________________________________> For subscription options, see> http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
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EVDL List · #4 01-15-2008, 09:15 PM

[quote]Willie McKemie wrote:
> http://austinfarm.org/homegrown/downloads/lionev.txt
>
Sadly, I'm not even remotely surprised, after my "research." I hope you
can get something back for your trouble. I thank you for coming out and
warning the community.

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EVDL List · #5 01-15-2008, 09:25 PM

[quote]Willie McKemie wrote:
> My story:
> http://austinfarm.org/homegrown/downloads/lionev.txt
>

nasty business. did ampmobile misrepresent the situation as well?

even though he has wronged you so try to be nice to him. see yourself in
his situation. don't threaten but perhaps calmly explain that what he is
doing is fraud and a felony? and that this type of behavior will land
him in jail. and if he pays you back what he can then you can move along

Dan

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EVDL List · #6 01-15-2008, 09:25 PM

Their Wikipedia page could do with some updating, and possible
comments on whether or not they have delivered any vehicles.

As it is, it's pretty much a Spamvertisement for the company, written
by a user named ElectricOne.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LionEV

-Frank

[quote] Willie McKemie wrote:

> My story:
> http://austinfarm.org/homegrown/downloads/lionev.txt
>
> I may be adding more detail.
>
> --
> Willie, ONWARD! Through the fog!
> http://counter.li.org Linux registered user #228836 since 1995
> Debian3.1/GNU/Linux system uptime 31 days 13 hours 26 minutes
>
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EVDL List · #7 01-16-2008, 12:32 AM

Didn't Mike Moore from Ampmobile traverse the list not too long ago saying
he was doing conversions for LionEV? I can't remember when that was to look
up the post. Maybe you could contact him to see if indeed he did indeed
sever a relationship with LionEV and if he has any information to help you
file your case.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxx@xxx.xxx.edu [mailto:xxx@xxx.xxx.edu] On
> Behalf Of Chuck Homic
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 6:09 PM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] LionEV
>
[quote]> Willie McKemie wrote:
> > http://austinfarm.org/homegrown/downloads/lionev.txt
> >
> Sadly, I'm not even remotely surprised, after my "research." I hope you
> can get something back for your trouble. I thank you for coming out and
> warning the community.
>
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EVDL List · #8 01-16-2008, 09:29 AM

Dan - LionEV appears to be run by a guy - Ken Curry - who was convicted of
fraud and sent to prison in 2005 for selling gold coins on EBay the he
didn't actually have. I imagine he already understands what he's doing.

[quote]Dan Frederiksen-2 wrote:
>
> Willie McKemie wrote:
>> My story:
>> http://austinfarm.org/homegrown/downloads/lionev.txt
>>
>
> nasty business. did ampmobile misrepresent the situation as well?
>
> even though he has wronged you so try to be nice to him. see yourself in
> his situation. don't threaten but perhaps calmly explain that what he is
> doing is fraud and a felony? and that this type of behavior will land
> him in jail. and if he pays you back what he can then you can move along
>
> Dan
>
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EVDL List · #9 01-16-2008, 09:51 AM

There's always 2 sides to every story... I'm only
hearing one side of the story. So far the dealings
I've had with LionEV, and the Texas Dealer has all
been good. The Texas rep was even at our local
Electric Auto Association last Saturday.

It would have been much smarter to have contacted the
Texas dealer and ask him to look into the situation
that occured rather than blast a one sided rant to the
list regarding your dealings with LionEV and
AmpMobile.

For one, when you purchase a car from anywhere, the
darn thing depreciates as soon as it leaves the lot.
Prices on new vehicles fluctuate throughout the year,
not to mention how do we know you compared exact model
to model when you priced the vehicle with a local
dealer, etc..... I can't imagine how you'd not expect
to pay taxes on a vehicle when you transfer it from
one state to the other, and so on and so on.......

It's a bad situation, and I feel for you, it's
probably been mishandled by all three parties
involved. I would not have handled it the way you
have, is all I'm saying.

[quote]--- Steve Condie <xxx@xxx.xxx> wrote:

>
> Dan - LionEV appears to be run by a guy - Ken Curry
> - who was convicted of
> fraud and sent to prison in 2005 for selling gold
> coins on EBay the he
> didn't actually have. I imagine he already
> understands what he's doing.
>
>
>
> Dan Frederiksen-2 wrote:
> >
> > Willie McKemie wrote:
> >> My story:
> >>
> http://austinfarm.org/homegrown/downloads/lionev.txt
> >>
> >
> > nasty business. did ampmobile misrepresent the
> situation as well?
> >
> > even though he has wronged you so try to be nice
> to him. see yourself in
> > his situation. don't threaten but perhaps calmly
> explain that what he is
> > doing is fraud and a felony? and that this type of
> behavior will land
> > him in jail. and if he pays you back what he can
> then you can move along
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
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>
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EVDL List · #10 01-16-2008, 10:28 AM

Just be sure you continue to share your experiences with us even if/when they turn sour. It would be a real disservice to us all if you continue to defend them up until the day they turn on you and then you go quiet. If you continue to get what you pay for then good for you but if not please let us know.

damon

> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:40:07 -0800
> From: xxx@xxx.xxx
> To: xxx@xxx.xxx.edu
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] LionEV
>
> There's always 2 sides to every story... I'm only
> hearing one side of the story. So far the dealings
> I've had with LionEV, and the Texas Dealer has all
> been good. The Texas rep was even at our local
> Electric Auto Association last Saturday.
>
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