[saab96]

Originally Posted by TexasCotton

I do not go to GE corporate for a washer/or dryer because best buy, home depot and others distribute for them. The same principle will apply for most new battery technology the process used by OEM being called distribution.

And where is the distribution?

Originally Posted by TexasCotton

OEM and specialty trade vendors will not sell direct because of contract agreements with second and third parties.

That's the business model they are deciding to pursue. It's not the only one. I would just appreciate it if companies that are trying to look "green" talking about EV applications actually put their money where their mouth is. Right now Firefly has gotten a lot of press based on what it might be able to do to electrify transportation but has little to show for it. Powering big rig accessories or war machines ain't doing J6P much good.

You'd think after the Cobasys NIMH debaucle that people would be a little more critical of how battery manufacturers do business, knowing how easily this stuff can be artificially held from the mainstream.

[TexasCotton]

Originally Posted by Coley

Quote:
"3 billion in fed funding is a huge chunk of change that a Demo senator acquired for firefly"

Billion??? You sure?.....

My mistake it was 3.2 million by Mr Dick Durbin the state you live near. You can disagree with the "business model" firefly chose what ever still not gonna get you a battery. Anyhow other market factors like "China" and similar "knockoff" will catch them in the long run. Just because you think you are entitled to buy direct from a corporate headquarter or OEM facility does not mean you will get your way. The other issue is that lithuim and nickel metal hydrid are not as easily to locate, mine, refine, process and build batterys as lead acid or upgraded lead acid aka "firefly"

"Why do you keep putting words into people's mouths?? Nobody feels 'entitled"
Hey SAAB your are the one that is wanting to buy direct. I will stand by my original statements being that I am not going to be the individual who wants to get GE washing machine from GE corporate direct or a GE mfg facility.

[saab96]

Originally Posted by TexasCotton

Just because you think you are entitled to buy direct from a corporate headquarter or OEM facility does not mean you will get your way.

Why do you keep putting words into people's mouths?? Nobody feels 'entitled'. The only reason I suggested someone call up Firefly and ask them about batteries is because you can't just get them from Wal-Mart, so if you did want them, you'd have to go to the source and beg. They could establish a new standard that all deep cycle lead acid batteries adopt if they wanted. That's a big enough market that they don't have to just pursue one or two niche markets like the military or lawnmowers--that is, if they actually have the technology mastered, which is arguable. If they could actually demonstrate what they say their tehnology could do, I would expect companies like Exide to be banging down their door. The Oasis battery is not the full deal. How better to demonstrate the battery than driving an EV 100 miles on a charge? Really, this is common sense.

[TexasCotton]

Originally Posted by saab96

Why do you keep putting words into people's mouths?? Nobody feels 'entitled'. The only reason I suggested someone call up Firefly and ask them about batteries is because you can't just get them from Wal-Mart, so if you did want them, you'd have to go to the source and beg. They could establish a new standard that all deep cycle lead acid batteries adopt if they wanted. That's a big enough market that they don't have to just pursue one or two niche markets like the military or lawnmowers--that is, if they actually have the technology mastered, which is arguable. If they could actually demonstrate what they say their tehnology could do, I would expect companies like Exide to be banging down their door. The Oasis battery is not the full deal. How better to demonstrate the battery than driving an EV 100 miles on a charge? Really, this is common sense.

SAAB your too too much and do you even realize what your past statements have said. I think you just want to complain so go ahead

[saab96]

Originally Posted by TexasCotton

SAAB your too too much do you even realize what your past statements have said.

I give up. You are right. Firefly is God's gift to EVs. We should all scream their praises from the highest rooftop even though they have yet to even demonstrate their full carbon foam battery and the Oasis falls well short of their hyped specs. I don't care whether it exists in some lab or not. If you can't get it, it may as well not exist, just like large-format NIMH batteries.

[TexasCotton]

Originally Posted by saab96

I give up. You are right. Firefly is God's gift to EVs. We should all scream their praises from the highest rooftop even though they have yet to even demonstrate their full carbon foam battery and the Oasis falls well short of their hyped specs. I don't care whether it exists in some lab or not. If you can't get it, it may as well not exist, just like large-format NIMH batteries.

I have already previously posted everything in regarding your statements SAAB96.

[TX_Dj]

Any member of this forum is welcome to post in any section, even if they're remote from the club location, if it's a club section of the forum.

Furthermore, at the NTEAA we consider everyone members, and treat them all with the same level of respect, whether they're members of NTEAA, National, or not at all.

Please cease the unnecessary bickering.

[TexasCotton]

Originally Posted by TX_Dj

Any member of this forum is welcome to post in any section, even if they're remote from the club location, if it's a club section of the forum.

Furthermore, at the NTEAA we consider everyone members, and treat them all with the same level of respect, whether they're members of NTEAA, National, or not at all.

Please cease the unnecessary bickering.

Thank you and I am sorry