[pgt400]

Interesting read about the Hazmat class 9, seems to apply to air AND ground....how does EVC ship inside USA legally then?

"The DOT are serious about enforcing it. It seems to apply to road, air, and public waterway transportation in the US. All rechargeable lithium ion batteries with above 25g (that's grams) of lithium are classified this way."

Originally Posted by frodus

6-7 days, but not legally! (http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11211&hilit=shipping+lithium)
We don't want to risk shipping illegally via air to the US. We ship via sea freight and ground for all of our US orders. There is no UN testing done on these Headway cells, so for anything over 3 cells worth of lithium, guess what, you're the importer on record, so you could be liable for these fines. ANY Air distribution done to the US or inside the US, has to be documented as Hazmat class 9 and have the UN testing done and have a trained packer (specially trained to ship/package lithium). Be careful, If you're in the US, you could get a knock on your door and some heavy fines following. The laws went into effect late 2009/early 2010. I've called and verified with 3 different people. Victoria and Lorraine (and headway, and TS, and SE are untouchable, since their jurisdiction is US only.... but they could be on a watch list if discovered).


Also, there is no warranty support with Victoria or Lorraine, and it gets very expensive when shipping large quantities. EVC has had Headways in stock for over 4 months, typical delivery times under 2 weeks for the loose cells and Packs we have in stock. The leadtime for TS and SE cells is 2-3 months, not Headway.

[frodus]

Originally Posted by pgt400

Interesting read about the Hazmat class 9, seems to apply to air AND ground....how does EVC ship inside USA legally then?

"The DOT are serious about enforcing it. It seems to apply to road, air, and public waterway transportation in the US. All rechargeable lithium ion batteries with above 25g (that's grams) of lithium are classified this way."

Read the whole thread, the UN testing applies to Air. Ground must be properly labeled (which we do) and packed properly. They have stricter guidelines for Air. They have different requirements for each type of shipping, at least thats what the NTSB told me.

We're playing the safe side until everything is figured out.