[Genius Pooh]

hi I can't fully understand remy250 motors

Some is perment some is other

Can you see this specsheet
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...8032D11A39!514

I think HVH250-090PO-PM motor is incrdeble ..
If it is permenant magnetic I don't need to buy BLDC controller??

And What controller actually can handle peak 420 kw remy motor( I think It handle more by graph)

What controller actually use at F150 truck??

I just find only near one sevcon gen4 size 10 but

Am I really need BLDC controller? It's so expensive..

[major]

Originally Posted by Genius Pooh

And What controller actually can handle peak 420 kw remy motor.

If you have to ask, you can't afford it

The Remy motor can use the rotor with interior permanent magnets (IPM) or induction cage (IM) type rotor, although they may not yet be supplying IM rotors. Either way, it takes an AC inverter controller designed to be compatible with this particular design motor.

I can't fully understand you Your signature says you are "Korea's gas to EV converting company for excutive sedan only." I would think such a company would hire an engineer to explain these concepts to you.

[Genius Pooh]

Originally Posted by major

If you have to ask, you can't afford it

The Remy motor can use the rotor with interior permanent magnets (IPM) or induction cage (IM) type rotor, although they may not yet be supplying IM rotors. Either way, it takes an AC inverter controller designed to be compatible with this particular design motor.

I can't fully understand you Your signature says you are "Korea's gas to EV converting company for excutive sedan only." I would think such a company would hire an engineer to explain these concepts to you.

Yeah... Thank you...but.. we are just software company now..
btw how can you know about that information I can't find at datasheet ..
Thank you again

[major]

Originally Posted by Genius Pooh

btw how can you know about that information I can't find at datasheet ..

I have worked in the industry, used the Remy motors, visited Remy and toured the facility, enjoy a relationship with some of the Remy guys, and Remy is a sponsor of the world speed record holding electric motorcycle for which I crew.

[Genius Pooh]

Originally Posted by major

I have worked in the industry, used the Remy motors, visited Remy and toured the facility, enjoy a relationship with some of the Remy guys, and Remy is a sponsor of the world speed record holding electric motorcycle for which I crew.

Oh It's cool... I'm 3d engine software developper for 14 years... I try to make something new.. Actually there is nothing serious do more in 3D engine ....new type of EV is my new challenge..

If there is no peak 420kw remy motor controller how can it be measured???

I really impressed that motor I think it will come 5 years later..after I see that motor I must accelate my business...

We first make touring EV car and then for F1 circuit ev car for normal people just joy..that in this year and next year's step...

But I really want to make EV type big truck and EQUUS sedan and show at motor show... with dyno graph..I think real customer at there..

Can you tell me how can be 420 kw remy measured and I wonder any ac controller would fit it? I know a guy make AC motor If any controller fit with it he can make me one...but.. if there already controller It's better..

[Stiive]

Originally Posted by major

I have.. enjoy[ed] a relationship with some of the Remy guys

!!!!

But seriously... lucky you

[major]

Originally Posted by Genius Pooh

If there is no peak 420kw remy motor controller how can it be measured???

Listen....I don't know where you get 420kW Remy motor I do not think it is a sales specification.

I do know that the dual power inverters used to drive the two Remy motors in the hybrid buses have been referred to as "one megawatt", which would infer that each motor inverter is capable of 500 kW peak.

Also, such peak power "tails" can originate in the laboratory which often has monster power supplies and/or generators for testing and development.

Inverters (motor controllers or VFD) of that power are available for industrial applications. These would likely be larger than your "excutive sedan" and not capable of the high frequency required for the Remy.

So if you want one, buy a service replacement power inverter drive for the Allison hybrid bus system I think you'd have to buy the complete bus first and that would cost you about a million USD. That's why I said, if you have to ask, you can't afford it

[Genius Pooh]

Originally Posted by major

Listen....I don't know where you get 420kW Remy motor I do not think it is a sales specification.

I do know that the dual power inverters used to drive the two Remy motors in the hybrid buses have been referred to as "one megawatt", which would infer that each motor inverter is capable of 500 kW peak.

Also, such peak power "tails" can originate in the laboratory which often has monster power supplies and/or generators for testing and development.

Inverters (motor controllers or VFD) of that power are available for industrial applications. These would likely be larger than your "excutive sedan" and not capable of the high frequency required for the Remy.

So if you want one, buy a service replacement power inverter drive for the Allison hybrid bus system I think you'd have to buy the complete bus first and that would cost you about a million USD. That's why I said, if you have to ask, you can't afford it

Hahaha they don't sell inverter only??? hahaha VAXO sales that motor in their web site above pdf file show that motor of course about 420 kw is peak power...they also sujest the price too

Hmmm... I need good controller... but cheapper than millions hahah.. thank you again

[PStechPaul]

Just looking at this and I found these references:
http://www.vaxosystems.com/store/pro...ric-motor.aspx

And
http://www.remyinc.com/docs/HVH250_r3_Sept_2010.pdf

These are for the HVH250 series, and maximum peak power is about 300 kW. The VAXO web page specifies 90 kW continuous an 150 kW peak which is the 320V version (but the Remy spec shows 63/78 and 185/305 kW cont/peak for their motors), and it sells for $7748/1. Peak torque for the 650V version is 408 N-M so maybe that's where the 420 came from. Their 100kW inverter drive is $8075:
http://www.vaxosystems.com/store/pro...-inverter.aspx

EV stuff seems really expensive to me since the highest price I have ever paid for a vehicle has been $4200, and it gets 30-45 MPG and I only drive 100-200 miles/week. There also seems to be a lot of fascination for high power and amazing acceleration but when you add the batteries to get a decent range you will be driving two tons or more and probably a $30,000 vehicle which would get me five cars like mine and the gas to last 2-3 years.

I like some of the low end projects and although I'm impressed with the high end conversions I just ask "why"? I've learned a lot of the "harsh realities" of the cost and effort involved and although I can see many projects as very reasonable and practical, I tend to roll my eyes when someone wants to put a 420kW or 560HP electric motor in a passenger vehicle, while my little Saturn SL1 with a 100 HP ICE would probably run quite nicely with a 30 HP motor.

[McRat]

Wow!

If a Remy has a OEM rating of >400HP at 700v, what is it's true racing potential?

Thinking that if they can go over 400HP with a Warp9 with a factory 34HP rating, there must be some expansion possibilities for the Remy?