[zercath]

I was looking around the internet and I saw a 4g63 motor in a civic. I was bored and started to search around and found nothing. WHat kinda mounts, ecu, wireharness, tranny do these people use?
wiring harness. you would have to use the dsm engine harness and the ecu harness. they have to run the motor either using the stock ecu or an aem ems, tmo ecu, etc. as far as running the stock dash, it isnt gonna happen. its gonna be an uatomoter gauge setup most like, (rpm, speed, fuel level, etc)

[kholman128]

I am new to the forum. I have a nice 2001 Honda Insight (Blue) with Mike
Dabrowski's MIMA kit installed. If anyone has any questions about the performance of the kit and car then just ask. Anything you could possibly
want to know about the original 2000-2006 Insights you will find on Mike's web site www.99mpg.com.

[TexomaEV]

One thing you can think about or do, is to precharge your battery pack. I found that some were doing this with the first gen honda insight, and built a similar charger for my prius. I understand the honda insight owners were doing this precharging, mainly to keep the traction pack balanced, extending the life of the pack.

I wonder if you keep your honda insight battery fully charged from the plugin charger, if you'd get better mileage?

Here's a link to a photo of the precharger I built for the prius. You do the same for your pack, using only enough of the 350ma CC pwr supplies to match the honda insight's traction pack.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mbarkle...7623998008161/

[Mike D EV]

Interesting variation on my basic grid charger concept:

http://99mpg.com/Data/resources/down...balancer_2.pdf

dual current version:

http://99mpg.com/Data/resources/down...d_charger1.pdf

Universal microcontroller version which I will be selling in the next month or so.
http://99mpg.com/Data/resources/down...gersystem1.pdf


The only disadvantage I can see to your version is that you cannot set a maximum voltage after which the CC becomes a declining current when the battery reaches full. From my experience with the prius cells, they can overheat and vent even at the low 350ma, if they are fully charged, and the current is maintained so I hope you are powering up the blower when you are charging, or that you have a timer on the charger.

I used 3 or 4 fixed 48V supplies each of which could be set over a 10% range. The single 350ma CC supply max voltage is 48V, so if you are charging an insight pack, which will usually read about 168V when full, you can set the no load voltage of the combined power supplies to say 165V, by adjusting one or more of the fixed voltage supplies, and when the pack reaches that max voltage, the current will start to ramp down towards zero as the pack voltage rises above that setting.

The universal charger will be able to charge anything from a single 6 cell
prius or Honda subpack at 7.2V nominal , to a second gen prius pack.
operational description is here.
http://99mpg.com/Projectcars/buildingahybridcar/
Custom internal harnesses will be available for the first and second generation Insight, All of the Civics, and the second gen Prius.
The civic amd prius blowers require a PWM speed control, which will be a small microcontroller circuit that will switch blower control from the stock controller to the charger controller when the charger is powered up.
Temperature probes will measure inlet air temperature and the outlet ait temperature, and can be set to shut down the charger is the differential gets too high.
On the first generation insight, and civics where the pack has a positive temperature coefficient thermal strip running next to each cell, the charger will also watch for the combined resistance to get over an adjustable threshold where it will shut down.
So far it looks like as much as 80-90% of batteries that are experiencing recalibrations or setting IMA codes respond to the rebalancing well and the problems stop. Some for several months, others for a shorter time.

I was told that the Toyota patent on the battery management system mentions an occasional balancing as a requirement for long life of the pack.
It seems that honda missed the mark by not providing a mechanism to accomplish that.

[ElectriCar]

A question I had about the Civics was, "Is the electric motor designed or capable of being used in full electric mode like a Prius or was is more of an assisting motor." Someone posted here that it is indeed a "booster" type motor, not capable of electric drive alone.

Just curious if anyone of you knows if the design has changed so it can do all electric now?

[TexasCotton]

Originally Posted by TexomaEV

One thing you can think about or do, is to precharge your battery pack. I found that some were doing this with the first gen honda insight, and built a similar charger for my prius. I understand the honda insight owners were doing this precharging, mainly to keep the traction pack balanced, extending the life of the pack.

I wonder if you keep your honda insight battery fully charged from the plugin charger, if you'd get better mileage?

Here's a link to a photo of the precharger I built for the prius. You do the same for your pack, using only enough of the 350ma CC pwr supplies to match the honda insight's traction pack.

www.flickr.com/photos/mbarkley/4822052957/in/set-72157623998008161/

I like your thinking. I am considering getting a 2nd battery pack (oem toyota)for my 04 Prius to do what your talking about. On the Prius the 1st battery pack is mainly to capture regen and blend. The SOC drops in lower temps and nightime driving.

[ElectriCar]

OK I've read twice on here about the 04 Prius being a platform to add battery. What about newer models?

After converting my S10 from a V6 to all electric, I don't want to do that again. There's just a lot of advantages to adding capacity to something like a Prius that can drive on battery if the battery is large enough.

My wife drives about 25 miles each day so this is what I'm looking to do for her. And with a hybrid if we need to make a trip out of state to visit family there's no problem using the same car.