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01-01-2008, 11:06 AM
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LionEV.com- Revealed as scam
Before purchasing from LionEV, be sure and read all the responses in this thread. Do cover yourself, fully with recourse ability to recover your money if you don't receive product, or satisfaction. This not only applies to LionEV, but really to ANY purchase over the internet or otherwise.
I wouldn't pay anything out, without reversal capability, if the product isn't being handed to me as the payment is going into the cash register, period.
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01-20-2008, 06:07 PM
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Re: LionEV.com
Do you have something to do with LionEV? I noticed you're not only using some supplemental LionEV batteries in your car but isn't that your email address on that above linked page?
Ohhhh, Could you be our go-to man for discounted lithium batts? Our Lithium angel?
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01-20-2008, 08:19 PM
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Re: LionEV.com
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Originally Posted by KiwiEV
Do you have something to do with LionEV? I noticed you're not only using some supplemental LionEV batteries in your car but isn't that your email address on that above linked page?
Ohhhh, Could you be our go-to man for discounted lithium batts? Our Lithium angel? 
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I wish I worked for LionEV, unfortunately they don't have a conversion operation in Oklahoma/Texas (Yet?)
The Texas Rep, for LionEV, is a member of our North Texas Electric Auto Association ( www.nteaa.org). I've been lucky enough to obtain some LiFePO4 cells to exeriment with. The guys a LionEV are great to work with, they've certainly been a huge help with my EV restrictions in Oklahoma.
I'm not sure how LionEV, is going to offer parts in the very near future, other than preconverted vehicles, replacement packs for commercially built hybrids to PHEV's, and DIY Kits for certain vehicles.
They liked the way I built the LiFePO4 modules that I'm using in my EV, so they put a link to it on their website, so others can take the idea, improve on it, and build safe/durable Lithium batteries.
I'll certainly keep everyone posted, if they start letting people order LiFePO4's for DIY battery pack building.
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01-25-2008, 08:00 AM
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Re: LionEV.com
It's odd because I'm certain that untill recently their website detailed prices on custom packs for sale. "Silver", "gold", and "platinum" packs, and a flexible cell sold individually (I think).
Now it just seems to be pre-made packs for existing vehicles! This is a pity, because I was thinking of buying some of the silver packs off of them.
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01-25-2008, 08:40 AM
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Re: LionEV.com
I wouldn't fret, I think they are going to setup a shopping cart, or online store, and I'd suspect all those things will be listed and more there.
The webmaster and I, pass emails amongst each other pretty often, he has other hats that he wears also, within the company. The website additions/updates take a little while to get done.
Hopefully soon, he'll have the online store up and running, and we'll all be able to purchase, from individual cells to entire bundled packs and chargers, at competitive pricing.
I certainly like working with the 20Ah FlexPack cells, they are much easier to work with than a boatload of AA batteries.... lol
You can see some of the FlexPacks in operation in my vehicle at:
www.flickr.com/mbarkley (click on the battery experiment photo set)
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01-25-2008, 01:32 PM
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Re: LionEV.com
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Originally Posted by TexomaEV
I wouldn't fret, I think they are going to setup a shopping cart, or online store, and I'd suspect all those things will be listed and more there.
The webmaster and I, pass emails amongst each other pretty often, he has other hats that he wears also, within the company. The website additions/updates take a little while to get done.
Hopefully soon, he'll have the online store up and running, and we'll all be able to purchase, from individual cells to entire bundled packs and chargers, at competitive pricing.
I certainly like working with the 20Ah FlexPack cells, they are much easier to work with than a boatload of AA batteries.... lol
You can see some of the FlexPacks in operation in my vehicle at:
www.flickr.com/mbarkley (click on the battery experiment photo set)
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Texoma, if each of those flexipacks next to the lead acid batteries are 20Ah, how big approximately would a 100Ah version be? Just approximate would be fine. I'm seriously considering using more advanced battery technology for the next conversion and LionEV would be perfect.
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01-25-2008, 02:13 PM
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Re: LionEV.com
"Texoma, if each of those flexipacks next to the lead acid batteries are 20Ah, how big approximately would a 100Ah version be? Just approximate would be fine. I'm seriously considering using more advanced battery technology for the next conversion and LionEV would be perfect."
Update: I just built a 100Ah, 100amp continuous , 1000amp burst, 12volt battery that fits in the same location as a standard size Golf Cart battery. I'm experimenting with the idea of building multiple 12 volt batteries, that would make it easy to retrofit an existing EV. The Fiero, that this pack will go into, has 18ea Pb/Acid batteries, it will only take 9ea of these LiFePO4 units. The car will be going from a 1200lb pack of leat to a 300lb pack of lithium.
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01-25-2008, 07:55 PM
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Re: LionEV.com
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Originally Posted by TexomaEV
I wouldn't fret, I think they are going to setup a shopping cart, or online store, and I'd suspect all those things will be listed and more there.
The webmaster and I, pass emails amongst each other pretty often, he has other hats that he wears also, within the company. The website additions/updates take a little while to get done.
Hopefully soon, he'll have the online store up and running, and we'll all be able to purchase, from individual cells to entire bundled packs and chargers, at competitive pricing.
I certainly like working with the 20Ah FlexPack cells, they are much easier to work with than a boatload of AA batteries.... lol
You can see some of the FlexPacks in operation in my vehicle at:
www.flickr.com/mbarkley (click on the battery experiment photo set)
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Ah good! It'll be a while before I can start my conversion, so I can afford to be patient
I especially like that the silver pack claimed to be able to go down to 100% DoD! Even if it's not quite that good, I am loathe to lug around batteries that I can only safely discharge to 50% or so!
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01-27-2008, 10:55 AM
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Re: LionEV.com
I posted some photos of my trials/tribulations so far on building an all lithium battery pack. I'm starting off with making a 40Ah, 40amp continuous, 440amp surge, 12vdc battery pack.
I'll use this battery as my Accessory battery in the EV, to see how it works with the assembly method I'm attempting.
You can see what's up there so far at: www.flickr.com/mbarkley
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04-06-2008, 12:41 PM
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Re: LionEV.com
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It's odd because I'm certain that untill recently their website detailed prices on custom packs for sale.
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I believe the custom packs you referenced to, were for commercially built Hybrids and EV's.
The battery cells they are offering DIY EV'rs, are the 100Ah and 200Ah modules that enable you to build up your own voltage specific pack.
You could probably still have them custom build you one, but it would probably be cheaper for you to do it yourself.
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