[david85]

I had high hopes for this fresh startup with claims of a 400 mile range ford ranger conversion as well as plans to sell a conversion kit, but in light of recent events as heard through this website from other members, it should be known that LionEV is not a company that can or should be trusted. I hope that we can use this thread to keep others informed about what has happened to date in this affair, and I welcome all information from all sides that may shed some light on what is going on with LionEV or LionEVs customers that may have been wronged.

I'll post updates as time permits, in the mean time if anyone would like to start off, than by all means let the EV community know what has happened to date with LionEV and its founder Ken Curry.

[JRP3]

This thread might as well have a link to the other discussion of lionev:
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums...nge-14059.html

[frodus]

Originally Posted by david85

I had high hopes for this fresh startup with claims of a 400 mile range ford ranger conversion as well as plans to sell a conversion kit, but in light of recent events as heard through this website from other members, it should be known that LionEV is not a company that can or should be trusted. I hope that we can use this thread to keep others informed about what has happened to date in this affair, and I welcome all information from all sides that may shed some light on what is going on with LionEV or LionEVs customers that may have been wronged.

I'll post updates as time permits, in the mean time if anyone would like to start off, than by all means let the EV community know what has happened to date with LionEV and its founder Ken Curry.

So, do you have any personal experience with Lion EV? Or is it just gossip and heresay that you've picked up from other members?

[joseph3354]

this isn't gossip or hearsay,there are links to court documents in this thread: http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums...om-7032p2.html

[frodus]

Originally Posted by joseph3354

this isn't gossip or hearsay,there are links to court documents in this thread: http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums...om-7032p2.html

I was just asking if HE had any personal experience, or if he was just going by what others say. I'm sure there's proof, I just hate it when people say "well, so and so told me this who was told by someone else...."... that IS gossip.

[david85]

This thread was set up because LionEVs reputation has been called into question, in part by rumors, but also by members that have had direct and indirect experience with this company and its affiliates (like cloud electric). If you know something, than please let us know because getting a strait answer from LionEV is virtually impossible as others, including autoblog green have discovered. What we do know is that its founder has served prison time in the past for fraud, and that the ranger conversions done to date by lionEV were done out of house by what is by all accounts a reputable performance/hot rod shop that also happens to do the odd EV conversion as well. So why go to LionEV? The "dealers" are often simply drop shippers that work out of their homes. So amyone that has room for a nother vehicle in their driveway could be a dealer. This explains why we have not seen any real dealerships advertising fo LionEV, because there are in fact just private individuals. Its possible that many of them got burned as well.

The photographs on the website never show any of the people behind LionEV either. What IS shown are often ripped off from other websites and to date the home office of lionEV is not shown. The address of LionEV is a private residence, and the lionEV "factory" simply does not exist.

More to your point, frodus, I do not have any direct experience with LionEV aside from Emails that go unanswered when I get specific with questions. But since I - like other members here - have often discussed LionEV as a possible source for turnkey EVs, I feel I have a responsibility to share information (which is not always easy to substantiate) that may help other EV enthusiasts avoid getting burned. If you think this is gossip, that is your choice to make, but at least you have the knowledge before hand. I for one will not trust lionEV in light of what has happened to date.

Thanks for the link, joseph3354 If anyone else has info about LionEV please post it so others can make a better decision before buying.

[joseph3354]

thanks david85,i posted links to warn people away from lionev a couple months ago here:
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums...ghlight=lionev

basically showing lionev to be a possible fraud.if a business is not registered in a state that they claim to be operating in it should be a warning flag.

[LeTank]

I guess in due time we will either hear about its success on TV, see an AD for the sale of this vehicle or perhaps the headlines will read, LionEV owners arrested for fraud. haha

[david85]

Originally Posted by LeTank

I guess in due time we will either hear about its success on TV, see an AD for the sale of this vehicle or perhaps the headlines will read, LionEV owners arrested for fraud. haha

If indeed Ken Curry has been sentenced to 24 months in prison than we may see this unfold in some of the headlines. But in reality this is small fry on the national news radar. I can't help but feel saddened by how things are shaping up. The electric car is being transformed into vaporware by incidents like this.

[Phyber Optik]

Given the amount of $$ involved, perhaps this thread should be stickied?