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Old 11-03-2009, 07:11 PM
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I've just sheared my third P.O.S. Wilderness EV coupler and need a better option. I have a D&D ES31B motor coupled to a 73 VW superbeetle transmission (no clutch) I only have 72 volts and drive on flats. Any ideas? I think the Lovejoy connectors look great but don't know if they make one to fit on the splines coming out of the trans. Help! Mark
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:48 AM
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Default Re: Lovejoy connector for Bug tranny

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I've just sheared my third P.O.S. Wilderness EV coupler and need a better option.
Hi Mark,

What is P.O.S? Got pictures?

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Old 11-04-2009, 06:51 AM
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Default Re: Lovejoy connector for Bug tranny

P.O.S. = piece of sh!t (in my world anyway)

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Old 11-04-2009, 07:28 AM
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I don't think lovejoys are up to it, from what I've read. If you're breaking couplers you may have alignment issues with your motor to tranny adapter.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:06 AM
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The couplers I have used are made from the center of a clutch disc that is welded to a keyed coupler that fits my motor. The clutch disc is made from soft metal and 3/4" of spline on it.The tranny shaft has about 3" of spline sticking out in the bell housing.The soft metal splines are only about 1/16" of so deep and eventually grind off and the motor torque evetually spins them off completely. I am not generating a huge,huge amount of torque because I only have 72 volts and at best about 350 amps from my controller.I saw some guy on youtube or someplace using a lovejoy in a mazda with a Warp 9 and 120 volts. Anyone out there have a solution for me? Thanks, Mark P.S. I better not send picture of P.O.S.-I'm sure it will get censored!!
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:25 AM
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How is it that your clutch disc centre is made from soft metal?
The clutch centre should be hard enough to handle the drive torque from the ICE without undue wear and tear.

If you look at Jackbauer's thread he has to heat up the corners of his clutch centre to get them soft enough to drill.
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:12 PM
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Interesting link. The clutch center on mine can be easily filed. It bent easily when I attatched a puller to remove it. It really does seam like a non-hardened steel. On the clutch with VW ICE you don't really have as much torque, as you disengage clutch at low rpm and then as the modest 1600 cc power curve ramps up you don't really have as much torque since car is already moving.If you do you shift up or down to compensate. Porsche used a rubber inner clutch plate in its 77-80 911 s to reduce vibration(They blew up after a while, but mostly because they dried out and had really high rpm's..) So, back to my original problem. How do I hook a round keyed shaft to a smaller, round splined shaft???
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:38 PM
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Something like this maybe:



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The VW crank end is hardened steel. Never use soft steel. Not even with a 72 volt system. Sorry about your POS. I always thought those were exactly that.

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Old 11-04-2009, 10:06 PM
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JRP= Yes that looks close. Where does one get something like this and how do I measure/describe the splined end? Thanks, Mark
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