[riwe]

Hi all,

Just wanted to share my latest project. I'm converting a 1973 fiat 500 R to electricity. I've created a blog that could help other do the same.

Please see luigi500.blogspot.com for more information.

Best regards

Rikard

[Salty9]

Nice blog. Looks like it's going to be a fun build.

[Jozzer]

Very nice, great combination of drive and car, I've been looking for a cheap Fiat 127 to pop an Agni into myself. The 127 is the smallest car you can actually fit a double bass into
What size battery pack do you think you'll be able to squeeze in?

Steve

Originally Posted by riwe

Hi all,

Just wanted to share my latest project. I'm converting a 1973 fiat 500 R to electricity. I've created a blog that could help other do the same.

Please see luigi500.blogspot.com for more information.

Best regards

Rikard

[Yabert]

Hi

I'm also interested to know more detail about the battery pack you think use and where you will fit it.

[riwe]

Originally Posted by Yabert

Hi

I'm also interested to know more detail about the battery pack you think use and where you will fit it.

Hi guys,

My plan is to use 26 Lifepo4 150Ah packs. They would be located in the front and in the back. But as you know that involves alot of $ so I guess I will start of with lead acid 50Ah just to get everything up and running.

Best regards

Rikard

[Yabert]

From the graph I have find, a 50Ah lead battery will be rated at 20Ah when you discharge it at 2C (100A). 100A x 72v is just around 8hp!

So, because the 50Ah battery will cost 600-900$ (100$-150$ each) and because you can only use around 15-20 Ah of those cells, if it' just to do some test, you can maybe keep an eye on small LifePo4 cells.
For example, 26 cells 38120s 10Ah will cost around 400-500$ and 26 cells 40160s 16 Ah will cost around 700-800$.
Maybe this 20Ah: http://www.ev-power.eu/?p=p_46&sName...o4-cells-(3.2v)

I used 7 Kg of headway 10 Ah in my Smart fortwo to do some test. That worked great.... for short travels at low speed!
It's just an idea!

[riwe]

Hi yabert!

You got a good point. Testing with low amp lifepo4 also gives me a chance to learn more about bms and charging. Ideal would be to be able to use the cells from test in parallel wither real pack, but i guess the discharge C would be a problem.

What about pouch cells? Those are minimal in size and weight, what is the draw backs?

What are your recommendations regarding bms? It would be nice to have a bms and a charger that can communicate.

Best regards

Rikard

[Yabert]

Originally Posted by riwe

What about pouch cells? Those are minimal in size and weight, what is the draw backs?

Nothing except the more complex multiple connection. But don't mix batteries chemistry.

What are your recommendations regarding bms? It would be nice to have a bms and a charger that can communicate

I use Mini BMS: http://minibms.mybigcommerce.com/
Simple, low cost, communicate with charger.
etc...
I also use her EV display.

[dtbaker]

Originally Posted by riwe

What about pouch cells? Those are minimal in size and weight, what is the draw backs?

cost....

bang for buck, and reliable delivery from a US warehouse, ease of wiring into a pack, I'd say CALBs are the current winner.

[rwaudio]

I'm testing with a small pack of 20ah A123 pouches, 100lbs of battery gives me about 30km and good power and a top speed over 120km/h. I've also tested with 50lbs of battery and I get less range and speed, but works very well.
These cells are great because even a 60ah pack lets me draw 1000A without destroying anything.

How far and how fast would you get with 50-100lbs of lead?