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09-27-2009, 05:08 PM
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my ebike
thinke about maeking my bicycle in to an e bike
range need: 15 kmh top spped: 15 kmh
parts conisdered 24 Volt 450 Watt Motor, Controller, & Throttle Kit,,12 volt 12 ah (2-4) buget:$300 wath other parts do I need? srooy no pics of the donro
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09-27-2009, 06:09 PM
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Re: my ebike
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Originally Posted by ev_nred
thinke about maeking my bicycle in to an e bike
range need: 15 kmh top spped: 15 kmh
parts conisdered 24 Volt 450 Watt Motor, Controller, & Throttle Kit,,12 volt 12 ah (2-4) buget:$300 wath other parts do I need? srooy no pics of the donro
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Depends. Do you want to do it as a kit, or do you want to go DIY? You could do it for almost nothing if you go DIY, but you'll have a lot more work to do adapting things.
There are some kits that I've seen on sale for as little as your budget that include SLA batteries, motor, controller, etc, but I am not sure they'll actually give the speed and range they claim unless you pedal a lot.
You can look at my project blog
http://electricle.blogspot.com
for lots of details, or my project thread here on the forum, or over on Endless Sphere, to get some quickie looks at what I've done. My avatar is a not-quite-recent version of the most recent bike in the Electricle project.
I've also done an upright bike, the DayGlo Avenger, using radiator fan motors and friction drive with roller skate wheels, which worked pretty well, considering it's very thoroughly used SLA power sources.
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09-27-2009, 06:18 PM
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Re: my ebike
I just found your other posts in the DIY Segway thread, where you say you don't have a bike nor can you stay balanced on one.
Of course, you can always use or build a trike.
There are even conversion kits to turn almost any regular bike into a trike, by removing the rear wheel and replacing it with the kit that has the frame/axle/wheels/etc for the back two wheels. That would fix the balance problem, but the kits are a little pricey for me.  Choppers US might have them.
There are a few reasonably easy trikes to build over at http://packratworkshop.com if you can weld.
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09-27-2009, 07:38 PM
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Re: my ebike
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Originally Posted by Amberwolf
I just found your other posts in the DIY Segway thread, where you say you don't have a bike nor can you stay balanced on one.
Of course, you can always use or build a trike.
There are even conversion kits to turn almost any regular bike into a trike, by removing the rear wheel and replacing it with the kit that has the frame/axle/wheels/etc for the back two wheels. That would fix the balance problem, but the kits are a little pricey for me.  Choppers US might have them.
There are a few reasonably easy trikes to build over at http://packratworkshop.com if you can weld.
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wath I mean is thta I cant ried a normaly bike but if its electric I thinke I can maneg. can you tell me if the parts I listed above aer good. and wath other parts and tools will i needed!
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09-27-2009, 08:09 PM
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Re: my ebike
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wath I mean is thta I cant ried a normaly bike but if its electric I thinke I can maneg. can you tell me if the parts I listed above aer good. and wath other parts and tools will i needed!
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I don't know if those are good parts or not, since you don't specify what brand and model they are (or where the kit comes from), or at least give a link to them on their respective websites.
There are a lot of motors, controllers, and batteries out there, and not all of them are equally good given the same use for them, for various reasons.
For instance, if you are in an area that is often wet or rainy, or worse you are in snow in regions that get salt spread on the roads and sidewalks to de-ice them, and have a hubmotor, you will either need to clean it all out regularly, or you will need to ensure it stays dry, or is sealed well enough so that stuff can't get in there. There apparently aren't many (if any) hub motors that are sealed that well, so a motor mounted somewhere higher on the bike or in a place you can seal up might work out better in such an environment.
There are at least a couple of recent threads on the Endless Sphere forums about exactly these problems.
The other parts and tools you may need will be determined by the exact motor/controller/batteries you choose, so I can't help with those specifically until I know which ones you're asking about.
But in general you will want something to house the batteries in, if they don't come with a solution already. Without seeing your bike and it's frame, *and* knowing the details on M/C/B, I couldn't tell you what the best solution to that is, either. Some people use toolboxes on a cargo rack over the rear wheel. Some people use custom-made boxes that fit in the triangle of the central frame. Some strap them on wherever they'll fit. Some use panniers to the sides of the wheels. It depends....
Also, if you are going to carry any cargo, such as schoolbooks, projects, lunch, battery charger and extension cords, etc, making a complete solution that includes space for those and makes the bike easier to balance would be a good idea. But I'd need to know what your plans are before I can help.
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09-27-2009, 09:15 PM
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Re: my ebike
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Originally Posted by Amberwolf
I don't know if those are good parts or not, since you don't specify what brand and model they are (or where the kit comes from), or at least give a link to them on their respective websites.
There are a lot of motors, controllers, and batteries out there, and not all of them are equally good given the same use for them, for various reasons.
For instance, if you are in an area that is often wet or rainy, or worse you are in snow in regions that get salt spread on the roads and sidewalks to de-ice them, and have a hubmotor, you will either need to clean it all out regularly, or you will need to ensure it stays dry, or is sealed well enough so that stuff can't get in there. There apparently aren't many (if any) hub motors that are sealed that well, so a motor mounted somewhere higher on the bike or in a place you can seal up might work out better in such an environment.
There are at least a couple of recent threads on the Endless Sphere forums about exactly these problems.
The other parts and tools you may need will be determined by the exact motor/controller/batteries you choose, so I can't help with those specifically until I know which ones you're asking about.
But in general you will want something to house the batteries in, if they don't come with a solution already. Without seeing your bike and it's frame, *and* knowing the details on M/C/B, I couldn't tell you what the best solution to that is, either. Some people use toolboxes on a cargo rack over the rear wheel. Some people use custom-made boxes that fit in the triangle of the central frame. Some strap them on wherever they'll fit. Some use panniers to the sides of the wheels. It depends....
Also, if you are going to carry any cargo, such as schoolbooks, projects, lunch, battery charger and extension cords, etc, making a complete solution that includes space for those and makes the bike easier to balance would be a good idea. But I'd need to know what your plans are before I can help.
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I am probebly going to add room to the crogo rack so I could put the battries in a toolboc and use the reminder of the space for my back pack. btw I will be removeing the peadels (so this e-bike will be a pe bike (puer electric bike)) here aer the links http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/2...ottle-kit.html
http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/24vo12amphob.html
wath other parts do I needed?!? THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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01-13-2010, 06:28 PM
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Re: my ebike
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Originally Posted by basujansb0110
I have not so much idea about Internal matter of ebike.
i want to eager what types of energy it takes.
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it does not take much electircy to keep the bike chraged it will only incres your bill buy 5 bucks tops. srrory for takeing so long to repaly i have been attack whit way to much home work  oh and here is and update on my project I only thougth my dad order the parts truns out he lied to me  he said thta his reason was thta it is way to cooled to ride a bike anywhere. I am trying to convince him but have failed so far. as well the parts thta I wanted to use are all sold out  but luckly I have got some more money now so I may upgrade to a 24 inch 250 watt hub motor (can anyone recmond one) and useing 2 7 ah 12 volt battaryes. however my bad luck does not stop there by now I am preetey sure I have out gorwn my bike. i'll try to check soon but I cant do it now becues the bike is in storge! thanks for all your hlep have a good day or night as the case may be!
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01-14-2010, 12:27 PM
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Re: my ebike
I used to ride my bike everywhere when I was younger. My back doesn't like it so much anymore, so I switched to electric bikes. I still can't ride as much as I used to though.
Anyway, when I was doing all that riding, I lived in Oregon and it was usually pretty cold and rainy. I NEVER got sick! I was in great shape and I got lots of fresh air. Any time my nose was stuffy, all that cool air cleared me right up!
Riding in the snow is no big deal. skinny tires work well on powdery snow, but you do need to be aware of where the ice is. It will land you on the ground faster than you can react to it!
Riding on hard-pack or on ice works fine as well. I do like using a studded tire for this - especially for ice. I usually just studded my front tire though. It's the one that does all the braking and turning, so it's the important one. Putting studs on the tire that makes you go will only help you get in trouble. Putting studs on the tire that makes you stop will keep you out of trouble.
If you had a front wheel drive bike, you'd be set!
I used short dry wall screws drilled through from the inside. I had to use LOTS of duct tape and a tire liner to keep the screws from popping my inner tube.
Have fun with your conversion.
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01-15-2010, 02:11 PM
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Re: my ebike
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Originally Posted by xrotaryguy
I used to ride my bike everywhere when I was younger. My back doesn't like it so much anymore, so I switched to electric bikes. I still can't ride as much as I used to though.
Anyway, when I was doing all that riding, I lived in Oregon and it was usually pretty cold and rainy. I NEVER got sick! I was in great shape and I got lots of fresh air. Any time my nose was stuffy, all that cool air cleared me right up!
Riding in the snow is no big deal. skinny tires work well on powdery snow, but you do need to be aware of where the ice is. It will land you on the ground faster than you can react to it!
Riding on hard-pack or on ice works fine as well. I do like using a studded tire for this - especially for ice. I usually just studded my front tire though. It's the one that does all the braking and turning, so it's the important one. Putting studs on the tire that makes you go will only help you get in trouble. Putting studs on the tire that makes you stop will keep you out of trouble.
If you had a front wheel drive bike, you'd be set!
I used short dry wall screws drilled through from the inside. I had to use LOTS of duct tape and a tire liner to keep the screws from popping my inner tube.
Have fun with your conversion.
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thanks I told this to my dad but he is as stubron as a mule on this one.  but thanks for all the help. and have you tried a recumbent bike?
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01-15-2010, 05:55 PM
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Re: my ebike
Inform your Dad that you agree with his decision and the weather is too nasty to ride right now...and that you and he should be spending that time ASSEMBLING that Ebike in a comfortable indoor setting so that you'll be ready by Spring! Remind him of the joys of bonding over a father-and-son project etc etc...
God I love being 42 and single. Only bonecrushing poverty, lack of time and nowhere to safely weld stand in the way of MY Ebike!
(and skill, and patience and...)
At least I found some nice sturdy 20" wheels last week ( $5 Goodwill mountain bike with fused chain broken shifters and ruined brakes, but GOD the wheels were worth at least $70 apiece). Inch by inch...
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