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Old 11-23-2009, 02:42 AM
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What's your budget?
What tools do you have available to you?
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Old 11-26-2009, 06:54 PM
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What's your budget?
What tools do you have available to you?
$200 and as for the tools here are a few: drill,saw,botls,nails,screw,screw dirvers, etc. and if you can answer the questiones above thta will be a garte hlep. and answer this one as will what charger port should I use 2 port 3 wire mabey?
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:44 PM
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I have been unable to see the video of the 3 wheel scooter that you are looking at, I'll try from another computer tomorrow.
With only a 100 watt motor you are going to need small driving wheels. Even with 12" wheels you are going to be under powered.
You positively cannot drive a 24 volt controller with only one 12 volt battery. You will need to have at least 2.
You might be able to use 3 batteries or 36 volts and get more power and speed out of your motor. I've seen it suggested on this site but I haven't experimented with that yet.
lead acid batteries will be the cheapest that you can get, why don't you just get some very bad and very old car batteries, take them to Canadian tire and trade them for some of their newer and not so bad warranty returned batteries? If you learn a bit about testing batteries you can get decent ones for free but they will be much heavier than you had planned but also have much more capacity. 30 AH compared to the 7 AH SLA's
I must say that I think that building ANYTHING from scratch is much more challenging that building from a kit.
I wouldn't want to try it without a welder and in fact even though I have a welder I have very limited skills using it. I would consider this project very challenging.
Bicycles can have training wheels.
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Old 11-28-2009, 09:29 AM
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If I were to build an ebike and I was unable to ride a regular bike for any reason, I would begin with the basics.
Number 1: I would start with a men's bike. The frame design allows you to install things like batteries and controllers low down in the bikes center of gravity.
Number 2: I would make sure that all of the functions of that bike work correctly. Especially the brakes.
Number 3: Make sure that the bike won't fall over. I would fabricate my own adult stabilizer wheels using bike parts from the dump. I might duplicate the product sold by www.stabilizerwheels.com

(I have a welder, grinder, hacksaw, tape measure, and clamps to hold my work)

Number 4: I don't want anyone to steal my bike so I need a good lock.
Number 5: I don't want to get wet when it rains so I need fenders.
Number 6: I want to see and be seen if I ride in the dark so I need a headlight, tail light, and reflectors.

(I bought 2 - $10 big rechargable flashlights from Canadian Tire and fabricated a mounting system for them. The flashlights have both a floodlight and a three LED red light switch so they are interchangable for either front or back.)
(I bought 1/8" x 3/4" flat bar, 1/4" ready rod (redirod) and a couple of 1/4" self locking nuts from Canadian Tire, I found a plastic jug that was the right size to fit the flashlight, a scrap piece of iron pipe that was just slightly larger than the diameter of my handlebars, and I found a stretchy cord to hold it)
(I clamped the redirod to the scrap piece of iron pipe in my bench vice, and bent the redirod around it to make a u-bolt, the I cut it off with a hacksaw, filed the rough edges off with a flat file, and made sure that the nuts would thread back on. Make 2 u-bolts.
Drill a hole through the end of the flat bar just a little bigger than 1/4", then take your homemade u-bolt dip the shorter end in something wet (paint, dishsoap, oil or whatever) put the long end of the u-bolt in the hole and drag the wet end across the flat bar to mark the spot for your second hole. Drill it.

Got to go to work I will edit more later
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Old 11-28-2009, 12:58 PM
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I have been unable to see the video of the 3 wheel scooter that you are looking at, I'll try from another computer tomorrow.
With only a 100 watt motor you are going to need small driving wheels. Even with 12" wheels you are going to be under powered.
You positively cannot drive a 24 volt controller with only one 12 volt battery. You will need to have at least 2.
You might be able to use 3 batteries or 36 volts and get more power and speed out of your motor. I've seen it suggested on this site but I haven't experimented with that yet.
lead acid batteries will be the cheapest that you can get, why don't you just get some very bad and very old car batteries, take them to Canadian tire and trade them for some of their newer and not so bad warranty returned batteries? If you learn a bit about testing batteries you can get decent ones for free but they will be much heavier than you had planned but also have much more capacity. 30 AH compared to the 7 AH SLA's
I must say that I think that building ANYTHING from scratch is much more challenging that building from a kit.
I wouldn't want to try it without a welder and in fact even though I have a welder I have very limited skills using it. I would consider this project very challenging.
Bicycles can have training wheels.
remeber it is agianst the law to ride an ebike if you are under 16 (I am only 13) but I migth do an ebike first to see if I can hook up all the patrs. I have also change the parts thta I will be useing: the 3 changes are thta I will be useing a 24 Volt 1.0 Amp 3-Prong Battery Charger (Standard) (link: http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/24vo10amp3ba.html) and a 3-Prong Charger Port with 3 Wires for Razor Scooters (link: http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/r...t-3-wires.html) will this parts work with the rest? and insted of useing one 12 volt 7ah battary I will use 2 5 Ah 12 Volt AGM Battery (Premium) (link:http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/12vo12amphob1.html) will this be okay? thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-28-2009, 12:59 PM
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If I were to build an ebike and I was unable to ride a regular bike for any reason, I would begin with the basics.
Number 1: I would start with a men's bike. The frame design allows you to install things like batteries and controllers low down in the bikes center of gravity.
Number 2: I would make sure that all of the functions of that bike work correctly. Especially the brakes.
Number 3: Make sure that the bike won't fall over. I would fabricate my own adult stabilizer wheels using bike parts from the dump. I might duplicate the product sold by www.stabilizerwheels.com

(I have a welder, grinder, hacksaw, tape measure, and clamps to hold my work)

Number 4: I don't want anyone to steal my bike so I need a good lock.
Number 5: I don't want to get wet when it rains so I need fenders.
Number 6: I want to see and be seen if I ride in the dark so I need a headlight, tail light, and reflectors.

(I bought 2 - $10 big rechargable flashlights from Canadian Tire and fabricated a mounting system for them. The flashlights have both a floodlight and a three LED red light switch so they are interchangable for either front or back.)
(I bought 1/8" x 3/4" flat bar, 1/4" ready rod (redirod) and a couple of 1/4" self locking nuts from Canadian Tire, I found a plastic jug that was the right size to fit the flashlight, a scrap piece of iron pipe that was just slightly larger than the diameter of my handlebars, and I found a stretchy cord to hold it)
(I clamped the redirod to the scrap piece of iron pipe in my bench vice, and bent the redirod around it to make a u-bolt, the I cut it off with a hacksaw, filed the rough edges off with a flat file, and made sure that the nuts would thread back on. Make 2 u-bolts.
Drill a hole through the end of the flat bar just a little bigger than 1/4", then take your homemade u-bolt dip the shorter end in something wet (paint, dishsoap, oil or whatever) put the long end of the u-bolt in the hole and drag the wet end across the flat bar to mark the spot for your second hole. Drill it.

Got to go to work I will edit more later
I do not have the patrs do to this nor do I have the buget and the skills
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:37 AM
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I don't think you will need the charger port. Your batteries need to connect to the motor, so however that connection is made should be fine.
Most of these connectors are available locally at any auto parts store. Batteries are available locally too, check wheel chair suppliers and also electrician stores because these batteries are used for emergency lights at store exits.
I'll bet you could get a better price for the charger on ebay.
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:19 AM
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I don't think you will need the charger port. Your batteries need to connect to the motor, so however that connection is made should be fine.
Most of these connectors are available locally at any auto parts store. Batteries are available locally too, check wheel chair suppliers and also electrician stores because these batteries are used for emergency lights at store exits.
I'll bet you could get a better price for the charger on ebay.
I will use a Razor Pocket Rocket/Ground Force/Chopper Battery Wire Harness
(link:http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/raporobawiha.html) will it be okay? and I need a chager port to connect the charger to the battary? I most order the patrs today! thanks!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:23 AM
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build your own harness
one thing you most certainly do not have to do is buy it today
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:38 PM
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build your own harness
one thing you most certainly do not have to do is buy it today
okay I know how to bulid a harness but it well take some time. and I do need to buy it asap becues my report card is coming soon and I am not sure if my dad will be okay with me build and ebike after he sees my marks (i dont know what they are but just in case) as well winter is coming and I want to leren to ride it befoer it snows!
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