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05-22-2008, 02:02 PM
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Re: Planning VW Classic Beetle conversion
New York.... that looks like the ones we have
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05-22-2008, 11:28 PM
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05-23-2008, 07:10 AM
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Re: Planning VW Classic Beetle conversion
Hey Bigswampthing, what spec can you give on your motor? I'm like you, I dont' have a ton of electrical engineering under me, but I can do redneck engineering pretty well, and you're confirming my thoughts about making something work fairly cheaply LOL
I've been debating picking up a cheap buggy with a blown motor, or converting a samurai I have sitting around...
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05-24-2008, 04:36 AM
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Re: Planning VW Classic Beetle conversion
Hi Al and Desi,
Just a newbi here, but thought you might like to know some of my first experiences with an EV VW. My car is on http://www.evalbum.com/1675 if you would like to check it out. I started out with a 72 volt system and Alltrax controller. The controller was great and very quiet but we live a little bit out of town so the car was a bit slow for highway use. Decided to upgrade to 120 volts with a 120volt Curtis controller. Car is greatly improved in power and range, although is getting a bit on the heavy side. Desi had concerns about the Curtis whine but I have found it to be fairly minimal. Especially as it is in the back of the car, it seems less noticeable. Gav was extremely kind enough to take us for a ride in his awesome car, and even though I don't mind the Curtis noise, it was more noticable when in the front of the car. I think it gives EV's character, bit like a petrolhead listening to a V8  .
Am still finishing the car for road legalitiy so will keep you posted on range etc. As a point of interest, I specifically picked a 1302S to convert, as it has the coil front suspension, which makes it easier to replace the springs for stronger units if needed and the petrol tank removal left a better space for batteries and I could retain my spare wheel. I made the motor adaptor plate and coupler myself, freight and exchange rate to NZ is a bit expensive. Hope this is of some help.
Cheers Rex
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05-24-2008, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Zevflow
Hi Al and Desi,
Just a newbi here, but thought you might like to know some of my first experiences with an EV VW. My car is on http://www.evalbum.com/1675 if you would like to check it out. I started out with a 72 volt system and Alltrax controller. The controller was great and very quiet but we live a little bit out of town so the car was a bit slow for highway use. Decided to upgrade to 120 volts with a 120volt Curtis controller. Car is greatly improved in power and range, although is getting a bit on the heavy side. Desi had concerns about the Curtis whine but I have found it to be fairly minimal. Especially as it is in the back of the car, it seems less noticeable. Gav was extremely kind enough to take us for a ride in his awesome car, and even though I don't mind the Curtis noise, it was more noticable when in the front of the car. I think it gives EV's character, bit like a petrolhead listening to a V8  .
Am still finishing the car for road legalitiy so will keep you posted on range etc. As a point of interest, I specifically picked a 1302S to convert, as it has the coil front suspension, which makes it easier to replace the springs for stronger units if needed and the petrol tank removal left a better space for batteries and I could retain my spare wheel. I made the motor adaptor plate and coupler myself, freight and exchange rate to NZ is a bit expensive. Hope this is of some help.
Cheers Rex
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Your conversion looks really well done. Does your back seat still fit in there with that battery box? It looks like you have 5 up front 2 in the back with the motor and 3 in the box inside with you? What speed are you going to get 25 miles?
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05-24-2008, 06:59 PM
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Re: Planning VW Classic Beetle conversion
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Originally Posted by onesojourner
Your conversion looks really well done. Does your back seat still fit in there with that battery box? It looks like you have 5 up front 2 in the back with the motor and 3 in the box inside with you? What speed are you going to get 25 miles?
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Hi there. Thanks for that. I have 4 batteries in the front, 4 behind the back seat ( which still folds up as stock, for passengers) and 2 in the rear. Speed wise, is a bit of 50 mph and mostly 30 mph for that range, but seems to be getting better with more cycling of the batteries.
Like your idea of doing a Kombi. Would look great. Have seen a photo of a flatdeck with the batteries under the tray on a slide out module. Good luck with your project.
Sorry to Al for hijacking your thread.
Cheers Rex
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05-27-2008, 05:54 AM
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Re: Planning VW Classic Beetle conversion
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This conversion uses a Kaylor Adaptor Plate that utilizes a stock VW flywheel, clutch and pressure plate!
So I found the company:
http://www.kaylorkit.com/aplate.html
(snip)
I've contacted them for pricing and other information.
I'll let you know what happens.
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so here is what happened:
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This mail is for your information only. You should not resend the message.
Original message (id 40712751) received at Tue, 20 May 2008 18:57:10 -0500
from (big.al)
delivery to the following addresses has been delayed:
<kaylor@kaylor-kit.com>
Reporting-MTA: dns; (mine)
Received-From-MTA: dns; (mine)
Arrival-Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 18:57:10 -0500
Final-Recipient: rfc822; kaylor@kaylor-kit.com
Action: delayed
Status: 4.5.1
Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 19:10:17 -0500
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP;
451 Name server timeout while searching kaylor-kit.com in DNS
From: (big.al)
Date: May 20, 2008 7:18:18 PM CDT
To: kaylor@kaylor-kit.com
Subject: RE: Inquiry regarding Electric conversion for classic VW
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I also tried all phone numbers I could find and all I got was number disconnected and one odd foreign-tongue message that had the sound of number disconnected.
So, unfortunately it looks like that is a dead end.
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05-27-2008, 06:13 AM
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Re: Planning VW Classic Beetle conversion
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Sorry to Al for hijacking your thread.
Cheers Rex
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It's related and it gives me more to think about, so I don't consider it hijacking!
Thanks for the posts guys!
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05-27-2008, 08:41 AM
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Re: Planning VW Classic Beetle conversion
hmmm. I emailed them to and have not heard back. I guess thats why. It is weird that the website is still up. I might run a whois on them.
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05-27-2008, 10:27 AM
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Re: Planning VW Classic Beetle conversion
did that when I got the first round of could not deliver notices.
The domains are good till later this year... like November 08, iirc.
they've actually got 2 domains,
kaylorkit.com and kaylor-kit.com
tried all contacts for both. in CA and CO.
none are good.
Last edited by big.al; 05-27-2008 at 10:29 AM.
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