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Old 07-04-2012, 02:17 AM
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Default Is there multi fuel diesel engine?

Is there multi fuel diesel engine?

I think diesel engine can use most of fuel.. gasoline natural gas etc...

I try to make multi fuel generator but diesel I see many gasoline multi engine but there is no diesel..

In Korea CNG( natrual gas) and propane is cheaper than diesel oil by just 1/10 and 5/10 extremely cheap but CNG station is very rare..so It must run muti fuel...

btw I think remy 250 is best and nearly cheap generator 5000 $ and 250-300 kw almost continue..(it's peak is 400kw so I think it can run 300kw about a hour) but If I use this just 100kw It's very cheap and very light too..

So Left is engine I will use this to very big car or super car or Truck..

And The new challenge is steam power.. so I need very hot gas chamber.. and water must over 200c-300c( hotter is better) my goal is heat efficiency over 40% I think diesel steam hybrid generator can do this...
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: Is there multi fuel diesel engine?

What does this have to do with Batteries and Charging, or Electric Vehicles in general?
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Default Re: Is there multi fuel diesel engine?

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What does this have to do with Batteries and Charging, or Electric Vehicles in general?
Oh It's for generator...

I need help so you may kno about this subject..

I think cng diesel is best generator for EV car..

Volt use gas it's bad choice
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Default Re: Is there multi fuel diesel engine?

Volt uses gas because it's available everywhere, while CNG is not. CNG is also not as energy dense so you need a big tank which takes up room and does not give as much range.
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Default Re: Is there multi fuel diesel engine?

I have moved this thread from Batteries to technical.

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Default Re: Is there multi fuel diesel engine?

Put me in your will before you try to run that diesel on gasoline. I would stick with diesel or bio.
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:04 PM
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Lightbulb Re: Is there multi fuel diesel engine?

I have looked into various alternative fuel engines. There are also some systems that incorporate both. But here are some interesting sources for steam and multi-fuel diesel engines (and there was even an old Briggs and Stratton lawnmower engine that ran on Kerosene). And there are some videos on youtube showing people who converted a lawn mower to run on steam. Funny to watch somebody bouncing along behind a mower with a water-filled propane tank in a barbeque grill in a cloud of smoke and steam!
http://youtu.be/eeCWLjoJ0FA

http://www.greensteamengine.com/
http://www.mikebrownsolutions.com/mbsteam.htm
http://www.tinypower.com/
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles/goebel43.html
http://www.tinytechindia.com/steampowerplan.htm

You can get small diesel engines on eBay and elsewhere from Koop:
http://harvestchapelmission.org/page...cooled-diesels

And here is a power source that runs on 50% vegetable oil:
http://harvestchapelmission.org/page...run-50-veg-oil
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Default Re: Is there multi fuel diesel engine?

I too have read about and even tried a few alternate fuel systems. But have not seen a setup that runs gasoline in a diesel engine and I for one do not recommend it. If it has been done I would very much like to see it.
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Exclamation Re: Is there multi fuel diesel engine?

There has been some work on an engine that burns gasoline AND diesel, but not one OR the other:
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...nd-diesel.html

Gasoline in a diesel engine:
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/09...burn-gasoline/

Kerosene in gas engine:
http://www.smokstak.com/library/tech...ine-engine-23/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hyue0nJsMI
http://youtu.be/TdVKSOQEMLQ

A manual for Sattley dual fuel engine (kerosene or gasoline):
http://oldengine.org/members/allen/S...ook/Intro.html
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Default Re: Is there multi fuel diesel engine?

As I made the challenge of show me I was pretty sure I would be shown. I was ready to concede to the fact that gasoline can be run through a diesel but I must make some provisions. Number one is that such a machine is still in the developing stages but not perfected. Number two is that the use of two separate fuel tanks and separate injectors to mix the fuels makes not a true diesel but a hybrid so complicated with extra moving parts that can go wrong it can be dubbed as impractical. Three is it is still using fossil fuel. The very thing this forum is supposedly working to overcome. In the past I have thought about generators as range extenders but have decided that it is just an extra hassle. At this point I like my car straight electric. The only time I pull into a gas station is to wash the windshield.
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