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Old 05-05-2012, 11:31 AM
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Default What's next in removing ICE engine from S10?

In the past few days, I have removed the radiator, engine coolant reservoir, air filter, battery, drained the oil, removed the oil filter, and exhaust system.

I still have the gas tank and fuel lines to take out this weekend.

But, I am trying to figure out what is next. I'm wondering about things like the throttle body (or at least the cable), power steering (it is attached to the engine), brake lines (I'm not doing anything with those)...

And then I don't know what to do about the clutch/manual transmission in order to remove the ICE engine.
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Old 05-05-2012, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: What's next in removing ICE engine from S10?

Next step: Get an S10 repair manual from your local auto parts place or the library. Haynes, Clymer, or Chilton's... they'll all give you detailed instructions for removal or replacement of any part of your car along with torque specifications for important fasteners.

The manual will (should) also have a complete wiring diagram for the OEM wiring, which is going to help you a lot when you're putting stuff back together.

Trying to do major car work without a shop manual is not a good idea, especially if you don't have very much experience with the mechanics side of cars.
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:19 PM
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I picked up the manual at the library today, hopefully it will identify a few parts that I'm not sure about.

Here is a picture of where things stand currently.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4191/...ersionday2.jpg

(The observant eye might notice the exhaust headers are still there. They will be gone tomorrow once I can make some loud noise to either drill out some bolts in the exhaust pipe to catalytic converter, or I use a hacksaw to cut the pipe. I'm not sure if it would ever be used again anyway.)


I will also be removing the fuel filter, damaged fuel tank , and fuel lines this week.

Should I look into borrowing a engine hoist from work, or is it better to just disassemble it piece by piece?

Another question is what do I do about the A/C? I kind of doubt that there is any juice left in it, but I am not sure of the correct procedure to check.

What do I do about un-needed wires? I removed the oxygen sensor and another one by the catalytic converter.

Any other tips? Thanks
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:02 PM
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At the end of day 3 (I do work all day and then do this at night), I have been able to remove the muffler and catalytic converter. The header still is stuck in the engine bay until tomorrow... I will have to hacksaw some more parts.

And it will probably be Friday before I can get the fuel system out. But, I like where I will be by this weekend.
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: What's next in removing ICE engine from S10?

On working day 4, I was able to remove the header and the rest of the exhaust pipe tonight. I wasn't giving up until it was out.

Friday night will be the fuel system and components.

Is there any reason to keep the engine together, or is it easier to remove pieces? Is it possible to sell an engine with 175,000 miles on it?

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Old 05-12-2012, 02:46 PM
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On working day 5, I removed the fuel filter, drained the little gas still in the line, and then removed the fuel tank.

I had to hacksaw the fuel line to get the fuel filter off because it was so rusted on. I'm not sure if it had ever been changed...

I need to remove some fuel lines still. And then I have to start looking into disassembling the ICE engine. I think that will be the best thing to do. It might not be the easiest, but it is straight forward.
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:58 PM
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On working day 5, I removed the fuel filter, drained the little gas still in the line, and then removed the fuel tank.

I had to hacksaw the fuel line to get the fuel filter off because it was so rusted on. I'm not sure if it had ever been changed...

I need to remove some fuel lines still. And then I have to start looking into disassembling the ICE engine. I think that will be the best thing to do. It might not be the easiest, but it is straight forward.
It's best to remove the engine in one piece. You will need a hoist in any case in order to get the engine block out of the truck - there is no benefit to taking the engine apart. When it's apart, it takes up a lot more space and if you have any plans for selling the engine then having it together is a benefit - the buyer will know that all the parts are there and that no critical surfaces were damaged from being improperly disassembled or stored.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:34 AM
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Is it possible to raise the truck up high enough and bring the block out of the bottom?

I can see why it would be faster and better to remove the whole engine though.

As for selling it, I would think the individual pieces would have move value than the whole thing. If I had a cracked block and wanted to swap out a engine, it would be better having it all together I guess. But, I don't know how good this engine is anymore, and I'm not sure I would feel comfortable selling it to know that it will even turn over after 4 years of sitting.

I can borrow an engine hoist without a problem though. I will have to come at it from the side of the truck to remove it I guess.
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: What's next in removing ICE engine from S10?

yes borrow an engine hoist. Can you take the whole front off of the truck? Never taken an s10 apart, but often times you can disassemble the front of a vehicle to the point where the engine bay is wide open to the front, with nothing to get in the way of removing the engine and other parts. It should also make it really easy to lay out and install stuff later.




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Is it possible to raise the truck up high enough and bring the block out of the bottom?

I can see why it would be faster and better to remove the whole engine though.

As for selling it, I would think the individual pieces would have move value than the whole thing. If I had a cracked block and wanted to swap out a engine, it would be better having it all together I guess. But, I don't know how good this engine is anymore, and I'm not sure I would feel comfortable selling it to know that it will even turn over after 4 years of sitting.

I can borrow an engine hoist without a problem though. I will have to come at it from the side of the truck to remove it I guess.
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Old 05-14-2012, 11:23 AM
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Is it possible to raise the truck up high enough and bring the block out of the bottom?
Usually that depends on if the front crossmember (K-member) is removable by unbolting. But then you'll likely have to remove the front suspension which can be a major exercise.
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I can see why it would be faster and better to remove the whole engine though.

As for selling it, I would think the individual pieces would have move value than the whole thing. If I had a cracked block and wanted to swap out a engine, it would be better having it all together I guess. But, I don't know how good this engine is anymore, and I'm not sure I would feel comfortable selling it to know that it will even turn over after 4 years of sitting.
The value equation goes both ways. It's more convenient to you to have the old engine gone all at once, instead of having to inventory the various pieces and store them so that they don't get wrecked from sitting out in the open.
Also, if you try to sell the engine (or its parts) for top dollar, then it may take a long time to sell, which means you don't get your money for a long time. If you advertise the pieces and you sell the head but not the block, you will have less money in your pocket than if you sold the whole thing at a discount.
If you're worried about it turning over then remove the plugs, and then try to turn it over by hand (i.e. with a 18 or 24" breaker bar on the crank pulley bolt). If it turns then it turns. Make sure you put the plugs back in to keep junk out of the cylinders, and tape off the intake opening and the exhaust ports. If you show some care in storing the engine, you'll have an easier time selling it.
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I can borrow an engine hoist without a problem though. I will have to come at it from the side of the truck to remove it I guess.
Engine hoists are generally used from the front of the driveline... if you go sideways then you run the risk of tipping the thing when you try to separate the engine and transmission. If you can borrow a hoist from your work, then borrow a co-worker that's used one before while you're at it. Probably cost you a case of beer, but save yourself hours in the process.
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