[Bowser330]

Originally Posted by danh818

Hang in there another month or two Dustin. I will be posting all of my data once we get the car driving.

Guys, Dan's 944 is a first class build, I can't wait to see the results.

Okay good, that's what I had read and had thought for the longest time, in stock form the 11HV should be able to tolerate 1000+ amps in spurts.

[danh818]

Originally Posted by DIYguy

Yes, it will take that current no problem for the 1/4 mile. . . although, the current may not stay up there the whole way. John Metric puts 2000 amps into each of his two stock Warp9's (with Helwig brushes) every race. It's all about duration. The warp 9's are like 10 hp continuous or something like that. Short bursts can be significantly higher.

Are John's motors really unmodified? I would have thought he had some tricks up his sleeve on those for sure.

[DIYguy]

Originally Posted by danh818

Are John's motors really unmodified? I would have thought he had some tricks up his sleeve on those for sure.

Ask him. They are stock except for the brushes. . . and he ran them for a while with the other brushes.

I pumped 1000 amp and even 1200 amps through my self built 9" GE many many times. . . as in regularly. Never hiccuped once. . . and that was street driving so, no cool down after. Just lower current.

[Bowser330]

Originally Posted by DIYguy

Ask him. They are stock except for the brushes. . . and he ran them for a while with the other brushes.

I pumped 1000 amp and even 1200 amps through my self built 9" GE many many times. . . as in regularly. Never hiccuped once. . . and that was street driving so, no cool down after. Just lower current.

What do you mean by "self built" ?

[DIYguy]

Originally Posted by Bowser330

What do you mean by "self built" ?

Oh, I mean re-built with some mods for EV application. It is a GE 9" out of a Hyster lift truck. There are details in my build thread. . http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums...-go-23492.html
I also did a 13" where I actually did more serious mods . . as I made a series motor out of two compound wound motors. Had to mod field coils, wrap, dip, bake, silver solder new connections. Shim pole shoes. Balance rotor. Clean up Commutator. Machined the frame. Insulate brush gear. Advance timing... all that good stuff. You can read about it here...http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums...ons-52291.html

[Bowser330]

Originally Posted by DIYguy

Oh, I mean re-built with some mods for EV application. It is a GE 9" out of a Hyster lift truck. There are details in my build thread. . http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums...-go-23492.html
I also did a 13" where I actually did more serious mods . . as I made a series motor out of two compound wound motors. Had to mod field coils, wrap, dip, bake, silver solder new connections. Shim pole shoes. Balance rotor. Clean up Commutator. Machined the frame. Insulate brush gear. Advance timing... all that good stuff. You can read about it here...http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums...ons-52291.html

wow, very cool. You essentially rebuilt the 150$ junkyard forklift motor for ~200$ give or take, right? so 350$ for a motor that can tolerate 156 volt with 13 degree advance and 1000A...jeez...couple that with a DIY controller for 600$ and you have a controller and motor for less than 1000$!

back on topic, I remember hearing the same thing form john, off the shelf Warp9's as opposed to Waylands custom built and upgraded single case single driveshaft impulse9's....So as i discussed with Dan, and according to their website, netgain includes the newest materials into its builds so its likely a recently purchased Warp motor will come "upgraded" to the latest and greatest...

[DIYguy]

Originally Posted by Bowser330

wow, very cool. You essentially rebuilt the 150$ junkyard forklift motor for ~200$ give or take, right? so 350$ for a motor that can tolerate 156 volt with 13 degree advance and 1000A...jeez...couple that with a DIY controller for 600$ and you have a controller and motor for less than 1000$!

back on topic, I remember hearing the same thing form john, off the shelf Warp9's as opposed to Waylands custom built and upgraded single case single driveshaft impulse9's....So as i discussed with Dan, and according to their website, netgain includes the newest materials into its builds so its likely a recently purchased Warp motor will come "upgraded" to the latest and greatest...

Ya, well, actually I didn't end up paying anything for that 9". I ran it from a 192 volt lead pack then a 211 volt Li pack (limited motor to 170 volts. But, ya essentially that's the case. GE motors may be even better than the Warp motors.
The new Warps do come with many upgrades including the Helwig red tops now.

[John Metric]

Originally Posted by Bowser330

wow, very cool. You essentially rebuilt the 150$ junkyard forklift motor for ~200$ give or take, right? so 350$ for a motor that can tolerate 156 volt with 13 degree advance and 1000A...jeez...couple that with a DIY controller for 600$ and you have a controller and motor for less than 1000$!

back on topic, I remember hearing the same thing form john, off the shelf Warp9's as opposed to Waylands custom built and upgraded single case single driveshaft impulse9's....So as i discussed with Dan, and according to their website, netgain includes the newest materials into its builds so its likely a recently purchased Warp motor will come "upgraded" to the latest and greatest...

Bone stock, right from the factory in 2009(before all the cool stuff). Got us to the 10's, addition of the Helwig brushes got us the 9's. Warp9 $1800+ TWarp9 $2350
In fact we didn't go over about 170-180V on the 155mph run in the Texas Mile, could have done that on stock brushes.
I have learned you can buy Glyptal paint and paint nearly everything inside to keep from arcing over. Might do that in Assault&Battery. My Lenco is shipping out on Monday, going to see what stock motors and 1.56 first gear do. I am also a netgain dealer if anyone needs one cheap(we will not be undersold).

[Dustin_mud]

Very cool, let us know how it goes. We may need to have a little meet up after I get mine going, speaking of I'm sure I'll be getting ahold of you when I need to order my motor.

[Dustin_mud]

I'm shooting for the 9s with a single motor so I'm sure your new car will blow my doors off. But it would be fun to race with another Texan