This comment is about this quote from below, " While the manufacturers have
not yet mastered a recharging process that makes it about as quick as
filling up with petrol, it is important for charging points to become as
common as petrol pumps. Access to charging points is part of the equation -
My reply is this, Last time I looked every outlet in Brittan and Europe
was 240VAC at 20 amps so why bother with J1772, simply plug their version
of level one charging into any outlet for a good recharging experience (So
long as someone else isn't drawing many amps from the same branch
circuit...) I have said before about the states that there are about 5,000
outlets suitable to power the charger in an electric car for every gasoline
retailer in the USA.
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[quote] brucedp5 <email@example.com> wrote:
> The Nissan Leaf south London experience
> [image] The Nissan Leaf south London experience
> By Georgia Lewis 26 Jul 2012
> [image] The Nissan Leaf seems to make a very good around-town 'motoring'
> proposition. If only it was a little cheaper...
> I was behind the wheel of the Nissan Leaf for a few days courtesy of
> Chargemaster, a company that offers, yes, you guessed it, charging
> for electric cars. This is the kind of business that will need to expand
> rapidly throughout London and across all of the UK if electric cars are to
> be truly successful here. While the manufacturers have not yet mastered a
> recharging process that makes it about as quick as filling up with petrol,
> it is important for charging points to become as common as petrol pumps.
> Access to charging points is part of the equation - governments, local
> authorities and fuel companies can all do better there - and speeding up
> time it takes to charge up an electric car and extending the range are the
> other parts. That's up to the car manufacturers' to work on and I'm pretty
> sure that's happening every day in R&D labs.
> The Chargemaster solution is pretty simple. I was ushered to a car park in
> Kingston and there was the Nissan Leaf parked beside a charging point.
> a quick swipe of the card, a little door opened and I had access to a
> from which the car could be hooked up to the wonders of electricity. Easy.
> The only bummer is that it takes seven hours from empty to get a full
> charge. As I said, this is the kind of thing the boffins at Nissan and
> elsewhere are looking into. There are also plans afoot at Nissan for using
> Solar Power
to charge electric cars, such as the SunPower innovation in t=
> US where solar panels are used to generate electricity for home charging
> Charging the Nissan Leaf at home costs around =A32 and the range can be u=
> 109 miles - and I'd believe that too. After buzzing around South London f=
> a couple of days in the Leaf, I was actually finding it hard to use too
> charge. This was partly because the stop-start nature of the traffic meant
> wasn't exactly fanging it around town like Fangio. But it was also because
> of the Regenerative Braking
system which was constantly giving energy back
> to the car every time I hit the brakes. Which was a lot. Even during the
> short trip from my house to Homebase and Wickes with five sets of lights,=
> roundabout where good manners go to die and plenty of stopping, starting
> darting around the masses of buses that all stop at Morden tube station, I
> could watch in marvel at the gauge as the charge levels went up every time
> braked. Although it was generally safer to spend more time watching the
> road. There's some idiots out there! But I digress.
> Speaking of idiots, I had my own moronic moment with the sat nav after I
> picked up the car. Naturally, my parents were in the car with me to add to
> the comedy value of it all. Having only been through Kingston once in a
> since 1985, I wasn't entirely familiar with the roads so I set the sat-nav
> to get me from the car park to my house. So far so good until I misheard
> sat-nav voice (I really want a Brian Blessed one, that lady voice goes in
> one ear and out the other) and accidentally turned into a pedestrian mall.
> After accidentally scaring a woman who was walking along, minding her own
> business, I finally found a way out of the pedestrian mall unencumbered by
> Once I was back on proper roads and heading for home, I was able to get to
> grips with the Leaf. What I've always liked about it is that inside and
> it just looks like a nice car. A pleasantly designed hatchback with a few
> quirky exterior angles thrown in, a nice, swoopy looking bonnet and
> appealing lights all round. It doesn't go out of its way to scream "kooky,
> new-age electric car!" at you. This is something I think the Citroen C-Ze=
> and Mitsubishi MiEV are both guilty of and it'd be great to see their
> designers not copy the Leaf but to make the next models look like they'll
> blend in with the traffic without being bland. Here is where Nissan's
> designers have got it right.
> Inside, the interior is calming neutrals, the steering wheel is nice and
> chunky and the gauges are lovely and clear. While the sat-nav took me to a
> pedestrian mall (OK, that was my brain fade moment...) and guided me back
> my house via a street I'd never use again because of a ridiculously narrow
> traffic calming device (that didn't calm me down one little bit), it was
> very easy to use. The dial for selecting park, reverse and drive looks a
> like it has mutated from a computer mouse but once you've got the hang of
> it, it's quite fun.
> Like all electric cars, that instant torque is lovely and there is
> plenty of power to be had. It didn't once feel sluggish and after a while,
> the silence aside, you do forget it's an electric car and it simply becom=
> just a car. And that is the Leaf's greatest strength. My father thought t=
> car was a bit big but, the narrow traffic calming device aside,
> I didn't mind the chunky size. And I suspect anyone with a family would
> it too. As a bonus, the boot was super-generous and we managed to fill it
> with an assortment of plants for the garden and general odds and ends that
> are not fun to take on public transport. Such as a pitchfork.
> Nissan are getting it right on a lot of levels with the Leaf. While I
> wouldn't be too game to try and drive it to my inlaws in the north-east,
> it'd be an ideal car for zipping around London. But the price does need to
> come down from the current =A326,000 after the =A35,000 government grant =
> plug-ins. There is talk of the price dropping when the new model comes out
> next year and that'd certainly help pick up sluggish sales - and might
> encourage more people to seriously consider zero-emissions motoring.
> [=A9 2012 SquareDigital Media]
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