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Old 06-27-2012, 01:26 PM
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The under-hood battery box on my EV is real close to the firewall, necessitating having to make a sharp bend in the accelerator cable between the firewall and battery box to route it over to the pot box. It works, but the cable is real jerky, so it's hard to take off smoothly. The cable itself is metal wire inside plastic sheathing. Due to lack of any additional space under the hood, there's no place to put the pot box that would alleviate the bend. Any suggestions for helping the situation except drilling another hole in the firewall and moving where the cable comes through, or purchasing an electronic pedal?

Thanks.

Bill

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Have you considered moving the potbox inside the vehicle?

> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:24:08 -0400
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> Subject: [EVDL] Jerky Accelerator Cable
>
> The under-hood battery box on my EV is real close to the firewall, necessitating having to make a sharp bend in the accelerator cable between the firewall and battery box to route it over to the pot box. It works, but the cable is real jerky, so it's hard to take off smoothly. The cable itself is metal wire inside plastic sheathing. Due to lack of any additional space under the hood, there's no place to put the pot box that would alleviate the bend. Any suggestions for helping the situation except drilling another hole in the firewall and moving where the cable comes through, or purchasing an electronic pedal?
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> Bill
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I have considered it, but are the 3 wires from the Curtis 1231C controller isolated from pack voltage? If not, I don't want to bring pack voltage inside the firewall.

Bill

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Have you considered moving the potbox inside the vehicle?

> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:24:08 -0400
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> Subject: [EVDL] Jerky Accelerator Cable
>
> The under-hood battery box on my EV is real close to the firewall, necessitating having to make a sharp bend in the accelerator cable between the firewall and battery box to route it over to the pot box. It works, but the cable is real jerky, so it's hard to take off smoothly. The cable itself is metal wire inside plastic sheathing. Due to lack of any additional space under the hood, there's no place to put the pot box that would alleviate the bend. Any suggestions for helping the situation except drilling another hole in the firewall and moving where the cable comes through, or purchasing an electronic pedal?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill
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[quote]Bill Dennis wrote:
> The under-hood battery box on my EV is real close to the firewall,
> necessitating having to make a sharp bend in the accelerator cable
> It works, but the cable is real jerky, so it's hard to take off
> smoothly.

You don't need to use a cable. Lots of EVs simply put the pot somewhere
under the dash, and operate it directly with the pedal. It's easy to
extend the potbox wires as long as necessary to reach the controller.

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Sounds like a hazard to me. If it sticks enough to be jerky, what will it
be like in a year or two? Stuck accelerator?
Peri

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Of damon henry
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Have you considered moving the potbox inside the vehicle?

> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:24:08 -0400
> From: xxx@xxx.xxx
> To: xxx@xxx.xxx.edu
> Subject: [EVDL] Jerky Accelerator Cable
>
> The under-hood battery box on my EV is real close to the firewall,
necessitating having to make a sharp bend in the accelerator cable between
the firewall and battery box to route it over to the pot box. It works, but
the cable is real jerky, so it's hard to take off smoothly. The cable
itself is metal wire inside plastic sheathing. Due to lack of any
additional space under the hood, there's no place to put the pot box that
would alleviate the bend. Any suggestions for helping the situation except
drilling another hole in the firewall and moving where the cable comes
through, or purchasing an electronic pedal?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill
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It sticks only when being pressed. The return action is smooth. I also have a second, external spring on the PB6.

Bill

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Sounds like a hazard to me. If it sticks enough to be jerky, what will it
be like in a year or two? Stuck accelerator?
Peri

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Sent: 27 June, 2012 12:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Jerky Accelerator Cable


Have you considered moving the potbox inside the vehicle?

> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:24:08 -0400
> From: xxx@xxx.xxx
> To: xxx@xxx.xxx.edu
> Subject: [EVDL] Jerky Accelerator Cable
>
> The under-hood battery box on my EV is real close to the firewall,
necessitating having to make a sharp bend in the accelerator cable between
the firewall and battery box to route it over to the pot box. It works, but
the cable is real jerky, so it's hard to take off smoothly. The cable
itself is metal wire inside plastic sheathing. Due to lack of any
additional space under the hood, there's no place to put the pot box that
would alleviate the bend. Any suggestions for helping the situation except
drilling another hole in the firewall and moving where the cable comes
through, or purchasing an electronic pedal?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill
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So - yo uhave a lot of tension on the cable to pull
against those two springs and the cable makes a sharp bend,
that is a prime candidate to wear through the plastic jacket
and rub heavily, causing the stickyness that you experience.
Easiest is probably a new hole and probably a new cable sheat.

If you can turn the cable sheat 180 deg around it could give
you some more life...

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It sticks only when being pressed. The return action is smooth. I also
have a second, external spring on the PB6.

Bill

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Sounds like a hazard to me. If it sticks enough to be jerky, what will
it be like in a year or two? Stuck accelerator?
Peri

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Sent: 27 June, 2012 12:32 PM
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Have you considered moving the potbox inside the vehicle?

> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:24:08 -0400
> From: xxx@xxx.xxx
> To: xxx@xxx.xxx.edu
> Subject: [EVDL] Jerky Accelerator Cable
>
> The under-hood battery box on my EV is real close to the firewall,
necessitating having to make a sharp bend in the accelerator cable
between the firewall and battery box to route it over to the pot box.
It works, but the cable is real jerky, so it's hard to take off
smoothly. The cable itself is metal wire inside plastic sheathing. Due
to lack of any additional space under the hood, there's no place to put
the pot box that would alleviate the bend. Any suggestions for helping
the situation except drilling another hole in the firewall and moving
where the cable comes through, or purchasing an electronic pedal?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:06 PM
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Hello Bill,

Go to a large truck part store, something like Freightliner and see how
smooth there throttle cables work. You can actually bend then in a tight
circle and can pull or push them with your little finger.

There is also a lot of cable end attachments from rod end ball bearings,
adjustment spring returns and etc.

Roland


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Subject: [EVDL] Jerky Accelerator Cable


> The under-hood battery box on my EV is real close to the firewall,
> necessitating having to make a sharp bend in the accelerator cable between
> the firewall and battery box to route it over to the pot box. It works,
> but the cable is real jerky, so it's hard to take off smoothly. The cable
> itself is metal wire inside plastic sheathing. Due to lack of any
> additional space under the hood, there's no place to put the pot box that
> would alleviate the bend. Any suggestions for helping the situation
> except drilling another hole in the firewall and moving where the cable
> comes through, or purchasing an electronic pedal?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill
>
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depending on how your pedal is set up, you may be able to link the potbox
right to the top of the pedal itself and eliminate the cable. as the one
possible example, the photos below show how i did it on a 1991 ford escort.

sorry about missing caps btw, my computer configuration is a bit off tonight
and i have no upper case.

http://drmm.net/ev/images/pedal01.jpg

http://drmm.net/ev/images/pedal02.jpg

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