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04-06-2011, 09:34 PM
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Re: Alternators, Free Energy, Perpetual Motion, Over Unity and all that...
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Hi, New to the Forum, so this might have been posted before, haven't got round to reading the 500 entries in this post
The info at http://home-solar-energy-system.com/magnetic-generator looks quite convincing, though I agree, that it needs to be proved large scale, but easy to experiment for ourselves 
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in what way is this 'convincing'? there isn't even a cartoon version of the principle they use to 'create energy'.....
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04-07-2011, 06:17 AM
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Re: Alternators, Free Energy, Perpetual Motion, Over Unity and all that...
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Hi, New to the Forum, so this might have been posted before, haven't got round to reading the 500 entries in this post
The info at http://home-solar-energy-system.com/magnetic-generator looks quite convincing, though I agree, that it needs to be proved large scale, but easy to experiment for ourselves 
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If that convinced you, I've got a Perpetual Motion machine in my garage that I would like to sell you. I'll just need a money order for $5000 and you'll never have to pay for energy again.
If you need to buy the guide to learn about it, IT'S A SCAM. If you need to buy the book to save thousands, IT'S A SCAM. If they've discovered ANYTHING that has eluded physicists for decades, but they will sell you the secret, IT'S A SCAM.
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04-08-2011, 07:49 AM
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Re: Alternators, Free Energy, Perpetual Motion, Over Unity and all that...
It's clear that some poeple on this forum use the "Faith" theory
http://bestofb.com/wp-content/upload...ncevsfaith.png
Just because no-one has found the solution doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If explorers from Europe / China decided that There's no Land to the west / east, America wouldn't exist.
I'm sure the detractors of those explorers screamed it's a scam, and they were not convinced.
If scientists can potentially find a new particle of force - http://www.popsci.com/science/articl...e-or-new-force then why would we not be open minded enough to think such a thing is possible?
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04-08-2011, 09:36 AM
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Re: Alternators, Free Energy, Perpetual Motion, Over Unity and all that...
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It's clear that some poeple on this forum use the "Faith" theory
http://bestofb.com/wp-content/upload...ncevsfaith.png
Just because no-one has found the solution doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If explorers from Europe / China decided that There's no Land to the west / east, America wouldn't exist.
I'm sure the detractors of those explorers screamed it's a scam, and they were not convinced.
If scientists can potentially find a new particle of force - http://www.popsci.com/science/articl...e-or-new-force then why would we not be open minded enough to think such a thing is possible?
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Are you suggesting that those of us who have scientifically proven the Law of Conservation of Energy to ourselves live by that "faith" theory?
Keith
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05-08-2011, 11:54 PM
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Re: Alternators, Free Energy, Perpetual Motion, Over Unity and all that...
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Originally Posted by ChadElectric
It's clear that some poeple on this forum use the "Faith" theory
http://bestofb.com/wp-content/upload...ncevsfaith.png
Just because no-one has found the solution doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If explorers from Europe / China decided that There's no Land to the west / east, America wouldn't exist.
I'm sure the detractors of those explorers screamed it's a scam, and they were not convinced.
If scientists can potentially find a new particle of force - http://www.popsci.com/science/articl...e-or-new-force then why would we not be open minded enough to think such a thing is possible?
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Has anyone done this ?
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06-17-2011, 05:56 PM
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Re: Alternators, Free Energy, Perpetual Motion, Over Unity and all that...
Two rules of physics...
- You can't win.
- You can't break even.
Peace.
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06-18-2011, 12:37 PM
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Re: Alternators, Free Energy, Perpetual Motion, Over Unity and all that...
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Two rules of physics...
- You can't win.
- You can't break even.
Peace.
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Sounds like US economics.
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08-11-2011, 06:56 AM
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Re: alternator as a range extender attachment?
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If you mean adding an alternator that's powered by the electric motor of the EV, then simply no, it will not work.
This is what you call Perpetual Motion
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I have an *obviously* electric bike. The batteries are prominently positioned, and anybody can see them. The bike gets considerable attention because there isn't anybody else like this in Kansas City.
Every day, or maybe almost every day, I get asked this stupid generator question. When I provide a short answer, they often want to argue. I don't bother. But it's amazing how ignorant these people are.
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08-27-2011, 01:05 AM
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Re: Alternators, Free Energy, Perpetual Motion, Over Unity and all that...
In gaining more electricity from a moving body-parts of the car I would rather consider the usage of Aerodynamics.
It is true that an alternator - the conventional from a factory - is not up to generate from an EV motor. And its also a true that it will consume this way even more electricity and your mileage will lessen.
2 possibilities that I know of:
Construct the alternator in a different way so that it wouldnt be hard to turn it. It would make less electricity. Best way would be to construct an alternator to create static electricity (as thats very easy to turn). Hook up some transformator, few condensers, a coil, and you thus change the electrostatic energy into a DC - powering back the batteries. This still is not enough to power the whole load of batteries but....
In a car there is a lot of place - allways at least 3 to 6 to mount an aerodynamic hole - through which the air could easily flow in - through - and out.
Get a ventilator there and hook it on a dynamo. This would also increase your Aerodynamics as the wind would be hitting your car anyway, when on road. In this way you let that air flow through you car internaly. Even a little ventilator is better than nothing.
By the air turning the ventilator you dont load your own motor and do create electricity that you can get right back to the battery.
Thats at least my idea how I will certainly build my EV. Im just at the beginning.
I am planning to put it where the former cooling ventilator is in the front panel of the car. But there must be also a way for the air to get easily out. I think this would be from under the car. Its just a question of mounting some aerodynamic shield into the motor area that would make the air easily flow out from that place.
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08-28-2011, 05:40 PM
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Re: Alternators, Free Energy, Perpetual Motion, Over Unity and all that...
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By the air turning the ventilator you dont load your own motor and do create electricity that you can get right back to the battery.
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Except, of course, that you are loading the motor, by increasing the wind resistance. Yes, you will get some power out of it, but not as much as you're going to have to use pushing harder against the increased wind resistance you're making.
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