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Old 01-30-2010, 04:09 AM
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Hi people new guy here.
Im E-verting my 98 Yamaha R1 track bike.
Ive had this bike since 2002 and have done 50k km on road, lost my license and track biked it. got it down to 145kg in ICE format. (worlds lightest R1)
But Ive become thoroughly disgusted with all thing combustion hence the E-vert.
This project has very specific design criteria the most interesting of which is it only has to run for 20 minutes.
Top speed 280kmh
Built weight 110kg
Motor is a Mars Electric Double Stack PMAC ME0913
which doesnt come on the market untill Feb 14 2010
Battery is A123 26650 solderless framing 120v 13.8Ah 720 pA
Controller is a Kelly 120v 600A.
Heres a couple of shots of the frame reinforcment.
SOOO...you want a topspeed of 280km/h with a single mars motor???
do i get this right?

take a look at the new A123 15Ah cells....i think it a better choice than the 26650...
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:24 PM
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SOOO...you want a topspeed of 280km/h with a single mars motor???
do i get this right?

take a look at the new A123 15Ah cells....i think it a better choice than the 26650...
Hey I can dream.
Is that the 32113 you mean.
going to be too heavy to get 120v and also the Peak Amps that I want.

Mock up time
the red stripe on the swing arm is the gap I have to cut to get the Tbelt in. A block is going to be bolted back in across the gap inside the RHS
Synchroflex GenIII AT10 25mm wide 10900N tensile strength.




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Old 01-31-2010, 01:27 AM
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Hey I can dream.
Is that the 32113 you mean.
going to be too heavy to get 120v and also the Peak Amps that I want.

Mock up time
the red stripe on the swing arm is the gap I have to cut to get the Tbelt in. A block is going to be bolted back in across the gap inside the RHS
Synchroflex GenIII AT10 25mm wide 10900N tensile strength.
DREAMS are not bad....BUT you have to be realistic, when you start to build something...

the original R1 motor with 150HP cant brinf the R1 to REAL 280km/h topspeed...

with this smal mars motor you get around 120km/h max.

no, i am talking about the 32113...i am talking about this cells:

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/vie...hp?f=9&t=14832

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Old 01-31-2010, 01:32 AM
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and if you want to build a REAL good racebike, than take a look at this one:

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/vie...=15346&start=0

double Agni95 motor brings you around 60kW of peakpower....
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Old 01-31-2010, 01:50 AM
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Sure but the original R1 weighed 190kg with fuel, mine will weigh 110kg.
Plus dont forget the ME0193 IS 2 motors in one.

The Mavizen is a design fail. Did you know Agni's are cast iron !! So are Perms
too heavy and you literally cant crash it.
If you lay that thing on its side you are up for a couple of hundred dollars in new brushes and frames. If you crash at speed you will destroy at least one motor completely.
My bike will be like a 250cc GP bike literally
At 110kg I will ride past any bike in a corner except for a 125ccGP bike.
It will exceed 200 no problems.
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Old 01-31-2010, 01:59 AM
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and if you want to build a REAL good racebike, than take a look at this one:

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/vie...=15346&start=0

double Agni95 motor brings you around 60kW of peakpower....

Its not the motors that bring you the power its the battery and controller.
Beside 120v 600Amps = 72kW
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Its not the motors that bring you the power its the battery and controller.
Beside 120v 600Amps = 72kW
man you are a DREAMER...

110kg??? your battery ALONE will be around 50kg...with BMS, wires, box and so on...

what is the weight of the naked R1...as it is on the pictures?? another 50kg?

TOPSPEED has not much to do with the weigh of a vehicle...

acceleration has more to do with the weight of a vehicle...

the Agni95 weight only 11kg and has 30kW peakpower...so wich one is heavier?? agni or mars?

well the mavizen is a design fail??? well such a motorcycle won the last years TTXGP...google it if you dont know...

200km/h??? NO WAY...

man, wake up and stop dreaming...
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Battery weighes 20kg
rolling chassis weighes 63kg (Dymag Carbon Wheels)
motor, mounts, cooling ducts 16kg
controller 3.5kg..................102.5

1 Mars weighes 14kg
1 Agni weighes 11kg
2 Agni's weigh 22kg

I cant understand how that RS125 weighes 115kg
He sure did something wrong

??? wake up and stop dreaming ???

How dare you tell me to wake up !!!!!
were all in the same boat here mate, no need to be rude
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Old 01-31-2010, 04:48 AM
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well the mavizen is a design fail??? well such a motorcycle won the last years TTXGP...google it if you dont know...

They won because they didnt crash.
If they had crashed they would have DNFed, thats a certainty.
Thats why its a design fail because it doesnt entail crash protection.
Who the hell goes racing thinking they wont crash.
Crashing happens to everyone...Rossi......Stoner ect

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