[frodus]

Originally Posted by pgt400

Yes, we can't wait to get confirmation on the new cells performance from someone incorporating them into something bigger then an e-bike...hint hint

haha, i'm workin on it, workin on it. Had to bail out a customer that needed cells ASAP.... so my 200 38120S cells had to get sold they're being replaced with the same 38120S cells.

[Little-Acorn]

Originally Posted by frodus

haha, i'm workin on it, workin on it. Had to bail out a customer that needed cells ASAP.... so my 200 cells had to get sold they're being replaced with the 10Ah cells.

Hey!

Travis, you wouldn't happen to have sixteen more 40160 cells sitting around after tests, would you?

Do you take CASH?

I'd love to be able to get started sizing my battery boxes, mounts etc.

KnowWhatAhMean?

[frodus]

Originally Posted by Little-Acorn

Hey!

Travis, you wouldn't happen to have sixteen more 40160 cells sitting around after tests, would you?

Do you take CASH?

I'd love to be able to get started sizing my battery boxes, mounts etc.

KnowWhatAhMean?

I never had any of the 40160.... this entire thread is about the 38120 cells....... I had 200 38120S cells and had to get rid of them....reread what I posted.

Headway made a very few 40160 cells, and those are gone. They won't be in production for another month or two.

[Little-Acorn]

Originally Posted by frodus

I never had any of the 40160.... this entire thread is about the 38120 cells....... I had 200 38120S cells and had to get rid of them....reread what I posted.

Headway made a very few 40160 cells, and those are gone. They won't be in production for another month or two.

OK, thanks. Just wanted to check and make sure.

[pgt400]

Has anyone ever purchased cells from Lorraine? He states he's a Headway direct employee...have not seen any posts from him laterly?

[EVComponents]

Originally Posted by pgt400

Has anyone ever purchased cells from Lorraine? He states he's a Headway direct employee...have not seen any posts from him laterly?

They all claim that. :-)

It is a China tradition for reselllers to pretend to western customers that they are the factory. It is not true for most of them.

Victoria is definitely not a Headway employee. We have confirmed that directly with the Headway factory that we purchase in bulk from.

The advantage with buying from EV Components (USA distributor) is that we do warranty the cells and will deal with the factory for you on the replacements.

As an individual, it is very tough to deal with the factory for a warranty claim on a small order. Headway responds to us when we make a claim because they want me to purchase large qunatities again in the future.

[pgt400]

Probably true that they both don't work for Headway directly, but also true is that Victoria or Lorraine can deliver by air in 6-7 days AND for less money then EVC with their typical 2-3 month delivery. Granted the difference in money is only ~$2-$3/cell, but the delivery difference is HUGE. Has EVC ever considered selling with an Air Shipment option?

Originally Posted by EVComponents

They all claim that. :-)

It is a China tradition for reselllers to pretend to western customers that they are the factory. It is not true for most of them.

Victoria is definitely not a Headway employee. We have confirmed that directly with the Headway factory that we purchase in bulk from.

The advantage with buying from EV Components (USA distributor) is that we do warranty the cells and will deal with the factory for you on the replacements.

As an individual, it is very tough to deal with the factory for a warranty claim on a small order. Headway responds to us when we make a claim because they want me to purchase large qunatities again in the future.

[frodus]

Originally Posted by pgt400

Probably true that they both don't work for Headway directly, but also true is that Victoria or Lorraine can deliver by air in 6-7 days AND for less money then EVC with their typical 2-3 month delivery. Granted the difference in money is only ~$2-$3/cell, but the delivery difference is HUGE. Has EVC ever considered selling with an Air Shipment option?

6-7 days, but not legally! (http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11211&hilit=shipping+lithium)
We don't want to risk shipping illegally via air to the US. We ship via sea freight and ground for all of our US orders. There is no UN testing done on these Headway cells, so for anything over 3 cells worth of lithium, guess what, you're the importer on record, so you could be liable for these fines. ANY Air distribution done to the US or inside the US, has to be documented as Hazmat class 9 and have the UN testing done and have a trained packer (specially trained to ship/package lithium). Be careful, If you're in the US, you could get a knock on your door and some heavy fines following. The laws went into effect late 2009/early 2010. I've called and verified with 3 different people. Victoria and Lorraine (and headway, and TS, and SE are untouchable, since their jurisdiction is US only.... but they could be on a watch list if discovered).


Also, there is no warranty support with Victoria or Lorraine, and it gets very expensive when shipping large quantities. EVC has had Headways in stock for over 4 months, typical delivery times under 2 weeks for the loose cells and Packs we have in stock. The leadtime for TS and SE cells is 2-3 months, not Headway.

[pgt400]

Not true, I know several people that have gotten warranty replacement from Victoria. Last month I contacted EVC for 16 Headway cells...no stock, so I got from another source (paid more).

"Also, there is no warranty support with Victoria or Lorraine, and it gets very expensive when shipping large quantities. EVC has had Headways in stock for over 4 months, typical delivery times under 2 weeks for the loose cells and Packs we have in stock."

[EVComponents]

Originally Posted by frodus

Also, there is no warranty support with Victoria or Lorraine, and it gets very expensive when shipping large quantities.

EVC has had Headways in stock for over 4 months, typical delivery times under 2 weeks for the loose cells and Packs we have in stock. The leadtime for TS and SE cells is 2-3 months, not Headway.

That is correct. We have several hundred of the Headway 38120S cells in stock (Seattle warehouse) ready for quick ground shipping in the USA.

I am now starting our next bulk import order with Headway. So hopefully we will be consistently keeping them in stock for quick shipping.