[pedm]

Hi Everyone!

This is our first post in this forum so let us introduce ourself s:
We are Pedro and Liliana from Portugal and we are going to convert a Renault Clio into electric.

We have been searching a lot about EV conversions but there are a lot of options ...
To decide which motor to use I will need your help.

The car is 990kg and we want it to have a range of 100km and maintain a speed of 100km.

We want an AC Motor (for regen, we live in a hilly area) but whit a battery pack of a maximum 160v nominal. (LifePo4 50 cell units max)

We are able to spend 15000 USD (motor, battery pack, and all the rest necessary). 50/50 - motor/battery pack

Can you help us to get a decision on the motor to use?


Thanks a lot,
Pedro and Liliana

[efan]

I think that what you want out of the car (100km range, and 100km/h top speed) with the budget you have can be easily done.
Since you want an AC motor, and only ~50 cells, an AC-50 is one of the only solutions. Check it out..
http://www.evparts.com/products/stre...ors/mt5615.htm
(when looking at an AC-50 you want the 650amp controller for better performance).
here are few vehicles that use similar set up:
http://evalbum.com/mtrbr/HPGC

if you notice one of the light porsches in the list uses 36 Skyenergy SE-180AHA batteries and gets ~160km range...I suppose you can use smaller cells if you wanted to.

PS. you might be able to get a better price on the motor and controller...the web page I posted is just to show what you should look for...

[pedm]

Originally Posted by efan

I think that what you want out of the car (100km range, and 100km/h top speed) with the budget you have can be easily done.
Since you want an AC motor, and only ~50 cells, an AC-50 is one of the only solutions. Check it out..
http://www.evparts.com/products/stre...ors/mt5615.htm
(when looking at an AC-50 you want the 650amp controller for better performance).
here are few vehicles that use similar set up:
http://evalbum.com/mtrbr/HPGC

if you notice one of the light porsches in the list uses 36 Skyenergy SE-180AHA batteries and gets ~160km range...I suppose you can use smaller cells if you wanted to.

PS. you might be able to get a better price on the motor and controller...the web page I posted is just to show what you should look for...

hi efan,
Thank you very much. We are going to chose the AC 50 motor.
About batteries we dont´t know yet. We are undecided about Skyenergy (your opinion) or Hipower. The choise goes to the better price.
Your opinion was very important for us.

Thanks a lot,
Pedro e Liliana

[peppp]

Olá Pedro,

I don't know the first thing about building EVs (still researching online atm), but I was curious... you're planning on importing from the US? Don't forget Alfandega is going to tax you to death (on a motor I would say 1/3rd of the original price + shipping).

Take a look at this shop :

http://shop.electro-vehicles.eu/shop/shop.asp

I'm not a client, but I noticed they do ship from Italy, so no Customs taxes and prolly lower shipping costs.

Best of luck for your project,

Joao
Porto, Portugal

[drawler]

chois EU suplier for the parts

http://kostov-motors.com/tractionmot...tors-and-kits/

lower VAT and Shiping tax.

Use SepEx 9" Kostov motor on 120V (whit Regen )
http://kostov-motors.com/tractionmot...s/k9120vsepex/

Use Kelly Controler: (whit Regen )
Cheap http://kellycontroller.com/kdc124032...gen-p-416.html
Or stronger http://kellycontroller.com/HSE.php

And TS 38 batteries 90Ah
http://kostov-motors.com/tractionmot...msandchargers/

[peppp]

Originally Posted by drawler

chois EU suplier for the parts

http://kostov-motors.com/tractionmot...tors-and-kits/

lower VAT and Shiping tax.

Use SepEx 9" Kostov motor on 120V (whit Regen )
http://kostov-motors.com/tractionmot...s/k9120vsepex/

Use Kelly Controler: (whit Regen )
Cheap http://kellycontroller.com/kdc124032...gen-p-416.html
Or stronger http://kellycontroller.com/HSE.php

And TS 38 batteries 90Ah
http://kostov-motors.com/tractionmot...msandchargers/

Doesn't Kostov ship from Russia and Kellycontroller.com from China?
They are both out of the European Union and heavily taxed

[efan]

Originally Posted by peppp

Doesn't Kostov ship from Russia and Kellycontroller.com from China?
They are both out of the European Union and heavily taxed

If you check the web page of Kostov motors, you will find out that they are from Bulgaria not Russia.

[peppp]

Originally Posted by efan

If you check the web page of Kostov motors, you will find out that they are from Bulgaria not Russia.

nice

glad you responded in this thread, i have one more supplier to choose from

[pedm]

Originally Posted by peppp

Olá Pedro,

I don't know the first thing about building EVs (still researching online atm), but I was curious... you're planning on importing from the US? Don't forget Alfandega is going to tax you to death (on a motor I would say 1/3rd of the original price + shipping).

Take a look at this shop :

http://shop.electro-vehicles.eu/shop/shop.asp

I'm not a client, but I noticed they do ship from Italy, so no Customs taxes and prolly lower shipping costs.

Best of luck for your project,

Joao
Porto, Portugal

Olá João!

Thanks, we really are going to need luck.

About the alfandega ports. Yes! they do tax a lot if cames from outside EU. I imported a Camera and they taxed me 800 euros for this . It was more cheaper than the motor. I'm afraid that they are going to tax me again. Does it append in other EU countries?

But... If I ask to send as a gift do they tax the same? Or not?
Thanks for the advice.

Use SepEx 9" Kostov motor on 120V (whit Regen )
http://kostov-motors.com/tractionmot...s/k9120vsepex/

Use Kelly Controler: (whit Regen )
Cheap http://kellycontroller.com/kdc124032...gen-p-416.html
Or stronger http://kellycontroller.com/HSE.php

Which one's the best? SepEx or AC?
SepEx is a DC motor?
Is there any example of the SepEx installation?

i have one more supplier to choose from

About the Suppliers do you now where is the link for the forum European suppliers?

As about the regenerating break whit AC50. I heard that it doesn't regenerate so much.
Check out this video:
http://media.ev-tv.me/news070210-1280.mov

Thanks,
Pedro e Liliana

[peppp]

Hey Pedro and Liliana,

I started a new thread here .

If you find more suppliers make sure you keep that thread updated please