[mizlplix]

Don't know what the fan runs off of voltage wise.

It is internally connected though.

Yah, the real Elcon cost about $220.00 more but arrived in 1/3 rd of the time.


Miz

[mizlplix]

As some of you know, I have been on a crusade to get a copy of the software to program Elcon chargers.

The 2 way shipping and the fee is just ridiculous.

So far, no results.

I will keep everyone updated.

Miz

[mizlplix]

OK, So far:

I believe I have located the plug. It is a 5 pin power plug, 16 Ga pins and a 4.72mm pitch. I even found a supplier willing to sell in lots of 14.

I am working on the pins, as they are packed in 500/bag lots....LOL

I have moderate skills in PC hardware and communication, but I know a lot of sources to lean on when I need advice and help.

I am determined to see this project through.

Miz

[celsomenaia]

mizlplix

I m with you , I have bought a TCcharger 1,5kw , for a Smart car that I´m converting

It will ship tomorrow and maybe 2 or 3 days to arrive.

I´m most interested in programming these chargers because I now have a distributor here in Europe,
Buying from China is ridiculous expensive usually I pay more in taxes and fees that in the product and Shipping

As an example I bought a DC/DC from Chennic for 83 € (DC/DC and Shipping) and to get it from customs I had to pay about 89 €

best regards

[bjfreeman]

you can program using the serial port on the charger.
I assume they do the factory, because you have to get a usb to serial dongle, and a serial to charger cable.
then you have to get use to using putty.
http://lithiumate.elithion.com/php/elcon.php
they really do provide info someone technical can use.


The is a statement that the Can Sometimes hangs.

in lithium, if you let the cells drop below the 80% curve you have extended charging, as well as more heat.
BMS protects from overvoltage (4.1v) as will as monitor heat and over current.
Unlike a lead acid charger that charges based on voltage.
Lithium are charged at a constant voltage with a 0.5C cut off.

[mizlplix]

There are a lot of various Elcon threads on the DIY and other sites around the world. I will slowly search out all of them and list them here on this one. It would be nice if it could be a sticky at some point.

The Elcon seems to be almost THE charger of choice, but this "secret handshake" programming deal is a real pain in the ass.

There are some really brilliant people in this field. It is time to gather them up and solve this problem.

Like this thread: http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums...ust-51100.html

Miz

[bjfreeman]

here is my last reply in another thread on the subject
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums...4&postcount=12
I remember in one of the pages
9600 baud
No parity
8bit
it is all there on their site if someone wants to wade through itl

[mizlplix]

So, as I understand it...(at this point);

The true algorithms and the ten voltage steps are recorded into the charger using the 5 pin serial plug under the bottom label by the micro switch.

The 7 pin circular plug, is only used for operating communication (not programming).

On the circular plug: pins #1 & 3 are used to enable/disable charging.

So far so good.

I use a simple programmable digital volt meter (which has 2 programmable relays), to monitor ONE cell from my pack. It can be on any cell, but eventually you determine which is your weakest cell and monitor that.

Set the relay #1 to shut off charger at 3.5 volts (or whatever).

It is a back up for a possibly glitched charger...It costs nothing. It is simple.

Miz

PS: Awsome, BJ.

[bjfreeman]

Since I started my project in the 90's, most of it is all hand built, including my 250KW charger.
I just started upgrading my Can Nodes with a new processor.
which is why I dug into what others were doing.

[bjfreeman]

Originally Posted by mizlplix

So, as I understand it...(at this point);

The true algorithms and the ten voltage steps are recorded into the charger using the 5 pin serial plug under the bottom label by the micro switch.

The 7 pin circular plug, is only used for operating communication (not programming).

On the circular plug: pins #1 & 3 are used to enable/disable charging.

So far so good.

Serial is the simplest to program.
you an also do it through CAN, with a Can module added. and your own CAN node as a terminal.

I use a simple programmable digital volt meter (which has 2 programmable relays), to monitor ONE cell from my pack. It can be on any cell, but eventually you determine which is your weakest cell and monitor that.

Set the relay #1 to shut off charger at 3.5 volts (or whatever).

It is a back up for a possibly glitched charger...It costs nothing. It is simple.

Miz

PS: Awsome, BJ.

The charger is run by a mico that also has a ability to read voltage and current. it will not start charging or will shut down if those voltages and current are out of spec or not present.