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Old 05-25-2012, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: [EVDL] Charging dead ion batteries

Not necessarily - I have done this with cell phone and laptop batteries. Let
them sit for a few months, self-discharging, then put them on a charger for
a couple days. They will come back and be useful for a while; but they seem
to eventually lose capacity; they don't power the phone or laptop as long as
new battery's do.



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> If the cell was allowed to get to 0 voltage, it was misused and is no
> longer
> of any use. Its DEAD forever.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: [EVDL] Charging dead ion batteries

I found out that if the voltage is below .50 the smart charger won't kick in
but if u some how get it to .50 it will start charging. I have used a lot of
cell phone charges different voltages form 3.7 v--1 or 2 amp 7.2v -2a & also
computer charges 12v-1000mv 15v-1a even 15v-4.6a even tried a wire form a
different 3.2 cell like a jumper but it got so hot it started to melt the
plastic off the wire & really start to smoke! before the charger would even
kick on! the best thing I have found out that work great are regular
auto-truck jumper cables, they a little bit big & a little stiff but as soon
as is connected the chargers will kick right on then after a few seconds U
can take them off the battery's who know U might even try & leave them on &
charge both of them at the same time on 12 volt! I haven't tyed that let I
will let U know what happens, later & good luck to U & every one else that
try to make things right!! onward into the night!

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From: Willie McKemie
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Charging dead ion batteries

[quote] Peter Gabrielsson wrote:
> If it's lithium Iron Phosphate there is a possibility that it can be
> resurrected but the resistance and capacity will suffer so don't use
> it in any high power applications.

I have four or five dead LFP cells. I believe I have attempted to
charge each with ~3.6v. None have recovered. I wonder if should try
higher voltage? With a 6v or 12v battery charger.

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Old 05-25-2012, 09:57 PM
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a little bit of use to me Joe is better then no use at all, that what
battery's were make for is to use them till there dead!! & thanks for the
cell phone info it is good to know they will at least charge back up till I
can buy a good new one!

-----Original Message-----
From: joe
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Charging dead ion batteries

Not necessarily - I have done this with cell phone and laptop batteries. Let
them sit for a few months, self-discharging, then put them on a charger for
a couple days. They will come back and be useful for a while; but they seem
to eventually lose capacity; they don't power the phone or laptop as long as
new battery's do.



Joseph H. Strubhar

Web: www.gremcoinc.com

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Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Charging dead ion batteries


> If the cell was allowed to get to 0 voltage, it was misused and is no
> longer
> of any use. Its DEAD forever.
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:06 PM
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,,, Please tell us how there lives where cut short
so others wont suffer the same fate ok Steve they lifes were cut short just
by not keeping them charged up so every one don't forget to turn on your
charges & keep them all juiced up so they will live a long & happy life!!
how that Steve did I tell them right or not!? I am learning finally a little
bit Steve.

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Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:35 AM
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Subject: [EVDL] Charging dead ion batteries

From: "Jack" <xxx@xxx.xxx>


>Can lithium-ion batteries be charged after setting for over a year on 0.00
>voltage? is there a way to charge them up after setting so long empty?<

Save them for the 4th of july , charge them then , but be carful when
playing with fire work. Batteries don't die , they are murdured ,, and
they where so young,,, Please tell us how there lives where cut short
so others wont suffer the same fate . Do it for the batteries , If you
don't who will .
Steve Clunn
AC vs DC I alternate between the two .
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