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Hi there,

I'm an owner of a Suzuki Hybrid which has an 1.2litre K12C engine. From what I know of the vehicle on the electric side of things with this car are for start/stop and some assitance when accelerating or when needing extra torque going up a hill. I know it has a small reworked Dualjet version of K12B engine and can also combined with 12-volt SHVS mild hybrid technology and 3Ah Lithium Ion Battery[12] or a parallel hybrid system with 10 kW Motor Generator Unit (MGU).
(source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_K_engine#K12C )

My question here is what is achievable with minor modification to the electric generator side of things? ideally to make my Swift better on petrol on the cheap I'd like to have an EV mode for around town. the petrol engine is fairly good on range as it is but having something that can extend the range further and fill in some power gaps like an electric supercharger would make for a fun ride!

I've contemplated going with other vehicles but for now I'm in a brain storming phase.

Cheers in advance.

Troy
 

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I'm an owner of a Suzuki Hybrid which has an 1.2litre K12C engine. From what I know of the vehicle on the electric side of things with this car are for start/stop and some assitance when accelerating or when needing extra torque going up a hill. I know it has a small reworked Dualjet version of K12B engine and can also combined with 12-volt SHVS mild hybrid technology and 3Ah Lithium Ion Battery[12] or a parallel hybrid system with 10 kW Motor Generator Unit (MGU).
(source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_K_engine#K12C )

My question here is what is achievable with minor modification to the electric generator side of things? ideally to make my Swift better on petrol on the cheap I'd like to have an EV mode for around town. the petrol engine is fairly good on range as it is but having something that can extend the range further and fill in some power gaps like an electric supercharger would make for a fun ride!
We never got this generation of Swift in Canada, so I had never heard of this variation. This is the only useful media coverage that found about it:
2017 Suzuki Swift Hybrid unveiled
If I understand that article and the Wikipedia entry for this car correctly, the mild hybrid has the K14D turbocharged engine and your K12C-equipped car is a "full" parallel hybrid.

With minor modification of the motor-generator nothing of significance can be achieved. The PB05A motor is rated for 10 kW of output power and 30 Nm of torque (compared to 67 kW and 118 Nm from the engine); to get any more would require at least some modification of the controller/inverter which drives it.

If you can squeeze in a larger battery, you can get more electric-only range, but that won't help fuel economy very much if at all.
 

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We never got this generation of Swift in Canada, so I had never heard of this variation. This is the only useful media coverage that found about it:
2017 Suzuki Swift Hybrid unveiled
If I understand that article and the Wikipedia entry for this car correctly, the mild hybrid has the K14D turbocharged engine and your K12C-equipped car is a "full" parallel hybrid.
Yeah New Zealand didn't get them in the RS Hybrid trim it's a Jap import. It has some minor upgrades to the regular Swift Hybrid. All disc brakes, 7 "speed" CVT transmission, body kit, and probably upgraded suspension as it handles corners very well on stock setup.

I'm currently hunting information about the K14D vs the K12C. Other than the information on Wiki not much I've seen between the two tells me the dimensions are any different between the two engines. Appears only the stroke might be longerin the K14D and it's turbo charged as well as having a hybrid system in select countries are the main differences.

I really need to get to a wreckers yard but seeing as these are too new I doubt there'd be many around.

So I guess I'd have to signficantly upgrade the electrical side of things to see any notable differences?
 

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You can probably boost the voltage and battery capacity to get some more performance. There is a pretty large cult following of the Honda Insights and CR-Z modifying them to increase the electric motor assist power and longer duration, plug-in charging etc. Some of the tricks are just using resistors to fool the computer's amp and voltage readings to allow higher power. They've doubled or more the stock electric motor assist power in some cases.
 
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