[psnee]

I have a 98 Saturn SC2 with a Warp9 motor and adapter plate installed. I'm asking 2500 but will consider less. Please contact me if you would like to see more pictures. I also created two metal battery brackets made from angle iron. I started working on this a few years ago, but just don't have any fee time.

I'm located in the Scranton PA area.

Patrick

 

[AmpEater]

More info would be great. Did you make the adapter plate or buy it? Where from? The transmission is standard, correct? How did it shift before? New clutch or old? Driven since the motor was installed (even a little with a 12v battery)?

 

[psnee]

I bought the adapter plate from electroautomotive. The transmission is a standard 5-speed. The transmission ran fine. The car was operational when I bought it and I drove it around for a few weeks before I pulled the engine out, and I never noticed any problems with shifting.

The car can't be driven the way it is. On Saturns (SC's and SL's anyway) the drive shaft going to the passenger wheel is split into two pieces, and the bearing support is held off of the engine. Currently I don't have anything holding up that support. I do have an engine ring clamp that I was going to use for that purpose but I don't have that quite installed yet.

I have spun the motor a few times using a battery charger just to make sure it works, but that's about it.

 

[AmpEater]

Thanks for the reply. I'm going to do some research on the support bearing issue. Do you have any pictures of the bearing that would give me a better idea of what needs to be fabricated?

Is the adapter clutched or clutchless?

 

[psnee]

If you google saturn EV projects, you should see some solutions. Usually people build brackets to hold the origional bracket to the electric motor.

Here's a few solutions I found.

The first picture is from
http://sites.google.com/site/glassphoto2/saturnev

In that picture, he attached the bracket to the car frame. I guess this works fine, but I wasn't going to do that because in the original design of the car the bracket was supposed to move with the motor. In this configuration, the bracket stays still and the motor moves.

The second is from
http://www.zuglet.com/ev/saturn/motor.html

This solution is a little better (in my opinion) because it attaches the bracket to the electric motor.

There is a third solution I've seen where they used a "ring" style motor mount, to hold the bracket to the electric motor. (I can't find the pictures of it though). That' what I was doing when I stopped work. I can give you the ring mount (worth over $100) if you want the car.

 

[psnee]

Forgot to mention that I left the clutch in (that's the way the electro automotive adapter plate system works).

I know the previous owner of the car recently changed the engine in the car so I'm guessing he also changed the clutch, but I can't say for sure. I don't really know how to tell how good of a condition the clutch is in, so I can't say how good or bad it is.

 

[AmpEater]

Does the band you have include any provision for mounting the bearing to it yet?

I'm interested, but I also just bought a new welder and cash is tight. Not sure if it could be transported for what I'd consider reasonable (less than $200), I'm around 85 miles or less, right down 81.

 

[psnee]

The only thing I've done to the ring mount was to notch it in a few places to allow it to cleanly hold onto the motor. (it was hitting some bolts on the motor body initially) You would still need to make an appropriate standoff to properly align the bearing bracket with the flat part of the ring mount.

You'll need to do some work there to get it done, but it shouldn't be too much. I'll look around to see if I can find the web page that gave me the idea.

As for moving it, if you have something with reasonable towing ability (i.e. truck, suv, minivan) , you can rent a car dolly from U-haul and tow it yourself. It's been a long time since I rented one, but I believe you should be able to do it for less than $100.

 

[BWH]

Sorry for jumping in, but I have a '97 SL with a WarP9 and an EA adapter myself.

I just wanted to share another driveshaft support option:

I had a racing shop down the street make this and the motor mount for me. Since these cars are identical the template they have should fit yours as well.

 

[psnee]

This is where I got the motor ring mount idea from. This is a great source of information for doing a Saturn conversion.

http://68.147.57.53/conversion/Conversion57.htm

 

[AmpEater]

Sorry for jumping in, but I have a '97 SL with a WarP9 and an EA adapter myself.

I just wanted to share another driveshaft support option:


I had a racing shop down the street make this and the motor mount for me. Since these cars are identical the template they have should fit yours as well.

Awesome, thanks for that info. Looks like there might be more than one way to skin a cat. How much did you pay to have it made up?


I will look into the U-haul option, I do have access to a truck. I'm wondering how to get it on a hauler as I think the ramps assume you can drive onto them.

I've seen adapters so you can mount your receiver-mounted winch and a trailer hitch simultaneously. I do have a winch, so that may be an option unless I'm overlooking something simple or obvious

 

[BWH]

I wish I was a welder. The cost for the metal was next to nothing, but I ended up paying several hundred for the design/welding hourly rate.

That was for a couple of mounts as well. Since it's only one piece and they've already made it before I'm sure it would be much cheaper.

Never hurts to ask.

http://www.jandeperformance.com/