[electro wrks]

Does anyone recognize this battery on eBay?: Battery EVO Solar Battery Golf Cart EV Car 16 Cells 3 kWh each 64 volts | eBay

 

[remy_martian]

Looks like cells from a company that shall not be named.

 

[cricketo]

Yup! That's a module from Chrysler Pacifica by LG. I have two of those running my Polaris Ranger EV.

Edit: I even bought mine from the same company.

 

[remy_martian]

Ack! Edit the name out or that source will get shut down....

 

[cricketo]

That company is a pretty big seller, pretty sure they got themselves on all kinds of radars if anyone cared.

Here is the wiring harness for those modules on their website btw :

LG Chem Solar Battery Golf Cart EV Car 16 Cells Wiring Harness

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[electro wrks]

Yup! That's a module from Chrysler Pacifica by LG. I have two of those running my Polaris Ranger EV.

Edit: I even bought mine from the same company.

Lotsa questions: How common are these? Are they used then in other vehicles? Cooling, passive or otherwise? How difficult is it to hook up a good BMS?

Ack! Edit the name out or that source will get shut down....

Is this because another company uses similar ones in a vehicle whose name rhymes with Jolt?

 

[remy_martian]

Yes...the source of the rhymes-with-Jolt's kindling allegedly banned the resale of said item. Which I think is bullshit, but nannies will be nannies.

I believe they are aircooled with a blower.

 

[cricketo]

They're not very common, but they're similar to other LG modules. Passive cooling. Connector is weird, I ended up just buying those wire harnesses by never got to tracing them - I never opened the cover, so still no idea what the pinout is like - certainly for 16s there are way too many pins, so must be lots of thermistors all over the module.

I think he was referring to the controversy where LG took legal action against sellers of these modules.

 

[electro wrks]

Thanks for the info folks.

 

[brian_]

Lotsa questions: How common are these? Are they used then in other vehicles? Cooling, passive or otherwise? ...

Is this because another company uses similar ones in a vehicle whose name rhymes with Jolt?

• I have never heard of another vehicle that uses the same modules as the Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid, although other modules may use the same cells. They are well known in this forum mostly because they have been sold as bare modules by various distributors, not due to salvage from Pacificas.
• They are cooled by a chill plate on one of the large faces (the bottom face in the Pacifica and in the photos on the linked page); in the Pacifica Hybrid that uses circulating liquid. Of course you could not actively cool them or could just blow air over the face that is supposed to have a thermal transfer plate on it, just as you can fail to provide appropriate cooling with any module, resulting in limited performance.
• The Volt has similar cells, and a similar (but different in details due to cooling method) stack structure, but not the same size and probably not identical internal composition or construction of cells. The Volt and Pacifica modules have some family resemblance, but are far from twins.

 

[brian_]

• The Volt has similar cells, and a similar (but different in details due to cooling method) stack structure, but not the same size and probably not identical internal composition or construction of cells. The Volt and Pacifica modules have some family resemblance, but are far from twins.

After I posted this and had to go do something else, I realized that the question was likely about the Bolt, not the Volt. The Bolt modules use the same thermal management approach as the Pacifica modules, so in the LG Chem family the Pacifica and Bolt are siblings, and the Volt is their cousin.

 

[electro wrks]

Right you are, brian, about the cooling plates. Here's a video about how these modules fit in, and come out of their box. If you don't get seasick watching it, there's quite a merry-go-round of various batteries, solar controllers, and inverters, along with some pretty dodgy wiring, in the rest of the video: