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I am working with the Cal State LA Eco Car Team and wanted to let your forum know about the work that we are doing.

We are students taking a 2013 Malibu and turning it into a hybrid/electric.

If you want you can like us on facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/CalStateLAEcoCAR2

for more information about the competition you can visit
http://www.ecocar2.org

We are working on getting a proper website up where we will provide updates on our progress. I will also be posting our progress here so you all can see what we do.

youtu.be/IMW-dE-LAxQ

youtu.be/-JSG2r5x4CY

(if anyone knows how to get the youtube embed to work let me know.)
 

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To embed just put the "IMW-dE-LAxQ" and "-JSG2r5x4CY" parts between the youtube tags.



Not to be discouraging but I'm disappointed that all these vehicles use an ICE or a fuel cell, where the real cutting edge efficient technology is in pure EV's. Hybrids have been done in all forms, I don't expect any significant advancements there, and fuel cells have too many inherent problems, such as lack of infrastructure, that engineering simply can't solve. What should be emphasized are lightweight aerodynamic but still fully functional EV's which get much greater range from existing batteries.
 

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Since GM produced a car that only gets an EPA rating of 35MPG and a fairly sad(IMHO) 360wh/mile, I think there is room to improve. The Volt produces worse efficiency than almost every conversion I know with a car that they tout as their most aerodynamic car and it weighs in at a hefty 3781 pounds while they are at it. I do give them kudos on their crash safety rating though as it is one of their safest cars so that explains at least a good chunk of weight.

The Prius plug-in is a bit of a joke, if you don't know what I'm talking about, drive one and you'll get a good idea, getting it to stay in EV mode can be a challenge and once it fires up the gas engine it stays on until the cat fires when you didn't want it to start in the first place.

These are the only two major plug-in hybrids on the road that are available from a manufacturer (excluding the Toyota third party DIY kits) allow for some kind of pure EV mode.

The idea of a plug-in hybrid isn't a bad idea if an efficient car can be produced in the end, which requires a lightweight car with good aerodynamics and LRR tires that are legitimately LRR. It is a challenge though, GM seemed to really put their focus on battery longevity with their pack usage limits but then again I can understand if someone drives 50 miles a day and cycles the pack to GMs set limits daily why it is done.

If I did anything plug-in I would find a very efficient small gas engine appropriately sized for the average highway load and geared for the max speed I'd drive on a highway trip, I would use the electric power to get up to speed, start and engage the engine and use it on the trip while at highway speed and use the electric whenever the demands exceed what the gas engine can do. I'm talking interstate driving here. In my case the engine wouldn't climb a mountain, that would be out of its scope but I'd use a 1st Gen Honda Insight which is what I'm converting anyway if I were to do such a thing. Instead I'm not doing that, I'm going pure EV and aiming for 100+ mile range on a ~20kwh pack. There won't be room for a gas tank in the car and probably no space under the hood for augmented power once I'm done and I refuse to give up my spare tire. With less range packed in the car I could probably fit a gas tank but the whole idea won't be touched by me.

Good luck, sounds like an excellent opportunity to learn and demonstrate what you can do.
 

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Hello Again,

Thank you for your replies. In my opinion the vehicles that GM are putting out are transitional, I am not sure when they will do an all electric, but I would be excited to see it.

The car we are working on will be a plug in and will have about a 40 mile electric range. We are still in the design process though.

Thanks Again. I will keep you up to date on how it all goes.

Here is a link to a company that is working on some promising fuel alternatives.
http://www.coolplanetbiofuels.com/
 
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