[brian_]

Your screenshots are like, 3x the dimensions they need to be in this thread. It makes it nearly unreadable.

This is a common problem in this forum, because for some reason it does not implement the auto-resizing found in other forums using the same software (vBulletin).

 

[brian_]

Good work

The set of categories of vehicle types is missing "pickup truck". Some limited-production electric pickups have been built (for many years), and more are coming. Since this is a functionally distinct category, it should be available.

It could use a "select all" feature for manufacturers, so it would be practical to select all then exclude specific manufacturers; that makes it easier to compare one brand to the rest of the world.

The regional versions (listed under "New features coming soon") will be good. If someone is actually shopping (not just interested in the technology), local availability is crucial. This could be a challenge, though: although there are several EVs which are theoretically available in Canada, only the Nissan Leaf and the various Teslas can be actually purchased in the province of Alberta. For instance, the Chevrolet Bolt is common in Ontario, but Chevrolet dealer sales staff here have never seen one, and some have never even heard of it.

 

[brian_]

Observations

Interesting observations
1. Range and battery pack capacity are closely related (what a surprise). But look how far the Tesla Roadster concept has gone!
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4.Tesla's superiority is clear. No matter what specs you choose, Tesla models are always on the top forcing other automakers to catch up.

No, but there are two things which are actually going on here...

• Tesla promises stuff which they don't build (such as the Roadster), getting fictional data points into the comparison
• Telsa uses large battery packs, corresponding to their high prices

I get that there are dedicated Tesla fans, but they get annoying after a while. For instance, the chart showing the roadster as an extreme outlier is filtered to exclude the Rivian products, making the proposed Roadster look like some sort of achievement. The Rivian SUV and pickup have only 10% less energy capacity than the Roadster, and achieve 2/3rds of the range despite being large and functional vehicles rather than a two-seat toy.

 

[brian_]

Re: Observations

They claim to...

True, the coming Tesla Roadster and both Rivian models are just promises, not reality. If only real vehicles are to be compared, then both 'Announced' and 'Available for pre-order' statuses need to be filtered out.

 

[brian_]

Re: Observations

Well, we are not promoting Tesla with our website. It just happens that Tesla is still leading and pushing the EV market forward. Some of their promises miss the deadlines, but finally become reality (i.e. $35k Model 3).

Sure, years after General Motors built the similar-spec Bolt and sold it for less.

My comment was just about filtering out the Rivian to make the Tesla Roadster look better. All of the examples have some Manufacturer filtering in effect - for no apparent good reason - and what is being filtered out is not shown. The site itself (database and tools) does not have any manufacturer bias, as far as I can see.

If it weren't for Tesla, would Rivian still be there?

Yes, someone else would have built the first popular high-priced EVs of the modern era. If it were not for GM (and the EV-1) demonstrating that an electric car could be a desirable vehicle when built adequate battery cells became available (from Panasonic and others), would Tesla be there?

The current EV market is not the creation of any one company.

BTW, if you go to the Tesla Roadster page there is a special disclaimer:
"This electric vehicle is a concept. Therefore all the specs for this model are estimates and may change when the production starts."

That's why my response to the comment about "claimed" range was to exclude "available for pre-order" vehicles if looking for real data. Tesla will happily take your money to reserve a spot for a vehicle which is not in production, and may never enter production.