Zeke Yewdall wrote:
> Now why would they require the hybrid components to last longer than
> any other components of a regular ICE car?
>
> On 9/9/07, m gol <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You are talking about the California law regarding PZEVs to last 15
>> years,
>> 150,000 miles.
>>
>> But not all components are covered.
>>
>> http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/f12/15-year-150k-mile-warranty-whopeeee-653/
>>
>> On 9/8/07, Joseph T. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > I heard something that it is a law to have batteries in EVs last
>> 120k
>> > mile. Is this true?
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--- Peter VanDerWal <[email protected]> wrote:
> Because they are considered to be part of the
> "Emissions Control System"
>
> > Now why would they require the hybrid components
> to last longer than
> > any other components of a regular ICE car?
> >
> > On 9/9/07, m gol <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> You are talking about the California law
> regarding PZEVs to last 15
> >> years,
> >> 150,000 miles.
> >>
> >> But not all components are covered.
> >>
> >>
>
http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/f12/15-year-150k-mile-warranty-whopeeee-653/
> >>
> >> On 9/8/07, Joseph T. <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I heard something that it is a law to have
> batteries in EVs last 120k
> >> > mile. Is this true?
> >> >
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--- Peter VanDerWal <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > They get around this by replacing any packs
> that
> > might go bad under warranty but from what I hear,
> the hybrid
> > packs rarely need replacing.
I have had mine replaced twice. first at 70,000 and
then at 130,000 mi. both at no cost to me. I think
it is a good idea.
> > I don't think that EV battery packs would
> be part of
> > the emissions system as there is no ICE so it
> probably won't
> > matter to EV's but could slow plug in hybrids
> some. But they
> > have known about this for yrs with hybrids.
>
> Actually I think that they would consider the
> battery pack in an EV as
> part of the emission control system, along with all
> of the rest of the
> electrical drive train. They seem to have a pretty
> broad definition and
> include EVERYTHING that is used to reduce a vehicles
> emissions.
>
> Since EVs are classified as zero emission vehicles
> (i.e. the ultimate in
> emission control) and the battery is crucial to an
> EVs operation, the
> battery is therefor an essential part of vehicle's
> emission control system
> (since the whole drive train is needed in order to
> operate at zero
> emissions)
>
> But that's just my guess.
>
> Hmm, this might be part of the reason the auto
> makers are working so hard
> to avoid building EVs.
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--- Peter VanDerWal <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > They get around this by replacing any packs
> that
> > might go bad under warranty but from what I hear,
> the hybrid
> > packs rarely need replacing.
I have had mine replaced twice. first at 70,000 and
then at 130,000 mi. both at no cost to me. I think
it is a good idea.
> > I don't think that EV battery packs would
> be part of
> > the emissions system as there is no ICE so it
> probably won't
> > matter to EV's but could slow plug in hybrids
> some. But they
> > have known about this for yrs with hybrids.
>
> Actually I think that they would consider the
> battery pack in an EV as
> part of the emission control system, along with all
> of the rest of the
> electrical drive train. They seem to have a pretty
> broad definition and
> include EVERYTHING that is used to reduce a vehicles
> emissions.
>
> Since EVs are classified as zero emission vehicles
> (i.e. the ultimate in
> emission control) and the battery is crucial to an
> EVs operation, the
> battery is therefor an essential part of vehicle's
> emission control system
> (since the whole drive train is needed in order to
> operate at zero
> emissions)
>
> But that's just my guess.
>
> Hmm, this might be part of the reason the auto
> makers are working so hard
> to avoid building EVs.
>
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