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How about 188V bldc salient pole(4) 3 phase about 3" thick by 10" dia.
around 70 lb/ft torque and around $500 used.

Honda insight IMA motor. Just a thought.

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Thats a honda insight motor? Hmmm, Might have to look at that.

Jeff Shanab <[email protected]> wrote:
> How about 188V bldc salient pole(4) 3 phase about 3" thick by 10" dia.
> around 70 lb/ft torque and around $500 used.
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> Honda insight IMA motor. Just a thought.
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I think neither the Honda IMA motor nor the Prius
motors are very well cooled, so you may need to improve
that feature if you want to run it as an EV-only and
give the motor a long life.
Not impossible, but don't assume that since the vehicle
has an electric motor will mean that you can run it
continuous duty without problems, so there may be some
work necessary before it does what you want.

Just a general heads-up.

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Thats a honda insight motor? Hmmm, Might have to look at that.

Jeff Shanab <[email protected]> wrote:
> How about 188V bldc salient pole(4) 3 phase about 3" thick by 10" dia.
> around 70 lb/ft torque and around $500 used.
>
> Honda insight IMA motor. Just a thought.
>
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The prius motor(s) are integrated into a transaxle and depends on the
splashing oil to help cool.

I agree on the cooling issue.

The honda IMA motor is just a stator and a magnet rotor. Almost like a
frameless motor, the rotor doesn't need much cooling. You could make
your own housing(indeed you would have to) and put stator cooling in it.

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Ben wrote:
> I dug around ebay looking, but didn't find any used parts for sale. I
> haven't called a dealership for parts prices because with what they
> like to charge usually for parts, you'd probably be better off buying
> a Seimens (etc) AC drive system.

I did once see an Insight IMA motor on eBay. Just the motor, no
controller or anything, I think it was $300.

There are a bunch of VTEC motors on eBay from time to time, running
closer to $600, which presumably include the IMA components. Probably
still missing the controller.

The two junkyards I've checked with don't have any hybrids; one claimed
they are "too new." I found a junkyard 100+ miles away that had an
Insight but never got to call them and now I lost their info 8(.

The Honda IMA motors are small for a regular vehicle, but should work
for a light EV/hybrid like the XR-3.

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If you really want a junked hybrid, try the insurance auctions. If the
junk yards in your area aren't interested in hybrids yet, then they should
go fairly cheaply, especially if they look unrepairable.

> The two junkyards I've checked with don't have any hybrids; one claimed
> they are "too new." I found a junkyard 100+ miles away that had an
> Insight but never got to call them and now I lost their info 8(.
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> The Honda IMA motors are small for a regular vehicle, but should work
> for a light EV/hybrid like the XR-3.
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get the whole engine for less than that at a junk yard


--- Travis Gintz <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thats a honda insight motor? Hmmm, Might have to
> look at that.
>
> On Nov 1, 2007 9:58 PM, Jeff Shanab
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > How about 188V bldc salient pole(4) 3 phase about
> 3" thick by 10" dia.
> > around 70 lb/ft torque and around $500 used.
> >
> > Honda insight IMA motor. Just a thought.
> >
> >
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