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Hi guys
I'm in the process of converting a motorcycle to electric and my plan is to power the main contactor on with a separate 12 volt battery and use the standard motorcycle key to switch it on and off with the lights. My problem is that i know pin 2 and 3 are for the throttle but what do i do with pin #1. I know you need it to get the controller to work but how do i wire it? Do i wire it directly to B+ or B- or do i hook it up to one of the main bolts on the contactor so it sees full pack voltage (72v) ?

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Hey Tim, Go to the Altrax "Document Depot". It's on their website.they have
several wiring diagrams. The precharge circuit is pretty important. I fried
one controller before I learned about the "document depot" Altrax sells most
of their controllers to golf cart applications, so their instructions cater
to EZGO, Melex, Yamaha... whatever. We are "scratch" builders and need to
follow more detailed instructions. I hope they update their installation
instructions to refer us to the document depot. Controllers are not cheap
and that popcorn sound will deflate your wallet in a nanosecond! Ride-On
E-Biker, Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Gamber" <[email protected]>
To: "post post" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:28 PM
Subject: [EVDL] Alltrax AXE pin #1


>
> Hi guys
> I'm in the process of converting a motorcycle to electric and my plan is
> to power the main contactor on with a separate 12 volt battery and use the
> standard motorcycle key to switch it on and off with the lights. My
> problem is that i know pin 2 and 3 are for the throttle but what do i do
> with pin #1. I know you need it to get the controller to work but how do i
> wire it? Do i wire it directly to B+ or B- or do i hook it up to one of
> the main bolts on the contactor so it sees full pack voltage (72v) ?
>
> Thanks
> Tim Gamber
>
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The setup on my motorcycle is similar to yours. I just have Pin 1 hardwire=
d to the B+ terminal. The controller comes on when I apply pack voltage th=
rough my main switch. I do run it through a precharge resistor first with =
a momentary switch that is wired across the main switch. Once the green li=
ght is solid I turn on the main switch.

damon


> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:28:40 -0600
> Subject: [EVDL] Alltrax AXE pin #1
>
>
> Hi guys
> I'm in the process of converting a motorcycle to electric and my plan is =
to power the main contactor on with a separate 12 volt battery and use the =
standard motorcycle key to switch it on and off with the lights. My problem=
is that i know pin 2 and 3 are for the throttle but what do i do with pin =
#1. I know you need it to get the controller to work but how do i wire it? =
Do i wire it directly to B+ or B- or do i hook it up to one of the main bol=
ts on the contactor so it sees full pack voltage (72v) ?
>
> Thanks
> Tim Gamber
>
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If the Altrax controller is like my 7245 then pin 1 is for keyed 12V power.

-----Original Message-----
From: damon henry <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:51 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Alltrax AXE pin #1


The setup on my motorcycle is similar to yours. I just have Pin 1 hardwire=
d to the B+ terminal. The controller comes on when I apply pack voltage th=
rough my main switch. I do run it through a precharge resistor first with =
a momentary switch that is wired across the main switch. Once the green li=
ght is solid I turn on the main switch.

damon


> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:28:40 -0600
> Subject: [EVDL] Alltrax AXE pin #1
>
>
> Hi guys
> I'm in the process of converting a motorcycle to electric and my plan is =
to power the main contactor on with a separate 12 volt battery and use the =
standard motorcycle key to switch it on and off with the lights. My problem=
is that i know pin 2 and 3 are for the throttle but what do i do with pin =
#1. I know you need it to get the controller to work but how do i wire it? =
Do i wire it directly to B+ or B- or do i hook it up to one of the main bol=
ts on the contactor so it sees full pack voltage (72v) ?
>
> Thanks
> Tim Gamber
>
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That will work too, in fact the current wiring diagram from Alltrax shows t=
he KSI being powered on by the same line that turns on the main contactor w=
hich will generally be a 12 volt coil powered by the accesory power. I rem=
ember seeing one time, although I'm not sure where it was now that the KSI =
could take full pack voltage, so I've always done it this way. I did the s=
ame thing with my Curtis when I had it as well.

damon

> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:53:05 -0400
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Alltrax AXE pin #1
>
> If the Altrax controller is like my 7245 then pin 1 is for keyed 12V powe=
r.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: damon henry =

> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:51 AM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List =

> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Alltrax AXE pin #1
>
>
> The setup on my motorcycle is similar to yours. I just have Pin 1 hardwir=
ed to the B+ terminal. The controller comes on when I apply pack voltage th=
rough my main switch. I do run it through a precharge resistor first with a=
momentary switch that is wired across the main switch. Once the green ligh=
t is solid I turn on the main switch.
>
> damon
>
>
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:28:40 -0600
>> Subject: [EVDL] Alltrax AXE pin #1
>>
>>
>> Hi guys
>> I'm in the process of converting a motorcycle to electric and my plan is=
to power the main contactor on with a separate 12 volt battery and use the=
standard motorcycle key to switch it on and off with the lights. My proble=
m is that i know pin 2 and 3 are for the throttle but what do i do with pin=
#1. I know you need it to get the controller to work but how do i wire it?=
Do i wire it directly to B+ or B- or do i hook it up to one of the main bo=
lts on the contactor so it sees full pack voltage (72v) ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tim Gamber
>>
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>Hi guys
>I'm in the process of converting a motorcycle to electric and my
>plan is to power the main contactor on with a separate 12 volt
>battery and use the standard motorcycle key to switch it on and off
>with the lights. My problem is that i know pin 2 and 3 are for the
>throttle but what do i do with pin #1. I know you need it to get the
>controller to work but how do i wire it? Do i wire it directly to B+
>or B- or do i hook it up to one of the main bolts on the contactor
>so it sees full pack voltage (72v) ?

This is how my CBR is wired. Here's a picture:
http://electricmotorcycles.net/modules/xcgal/albums/userpics/10003/IMG_5230.jpg

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Hi guys thanks for all the responses you really helped me out! I'm just waiting for my sprocket to arrive so i can start mounting the motor This thing should really rip... Alltrax 7245 an ADC 6.7" motor set to go, and 6 12 volt 33 amp/h batteries are planned!

> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 23:16:57 -0400
> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Alltrax AXE pin #1
>
> >Hi guys
> >I'm in the process of converting a motorcycle to electric and my
> >plan is to power the main contactor on with a separate 12 volt
> >battery and use the standard motorcycle key to switch it on and off
> >with the lights. My problem is that i know pin 2 and 3 are for the
> >throttle but what do i do with pin #1. I know you need it to get the
> >controller to work but how do i wire it? Do i wire it directly to B+
> >or B- or do i hook it up to one of the main bolts on the contactor
> >so it sees full pack voltage (72v) ?
>
> This is how my CBR is wired. Here's a picture:
> http://electricmotorcycles.net/modules/xcgal/albums/userpics/10003/IMG_5230.jpg
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