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I spent this past Saturday hanging out with the local vintage VW crowd. One=
of the local import shops was having a BBQ and show-off to let people know=
about their business complete with live music and a trip around the facili=
ty in a rough, old Formula -V racer (read big kid's go-kart).
=

Everyone had been asking me to bring the E-Beetle down so I did and opened =
it up for public consumption. It was a bigger hit than I expected. Everyone=
loved it, especially the racers. The shop is looking to build a 914 conver=
sion for a customer and one of the shop owners has an old VW single cab bus=
/pickup he now wants to convert. He says it has a huge "treasure chest" are=
a under the bed that he can load up with batteries.
=

I think the thing I enjoyed most about the day was the fact that these were=
normal, everyday, non-tree-hugging, gas driving, people but everyone was i=
n agreement that the current situation with regard to gasoline driving and =
fossil fuel electricity production cannot stand and they were all intereste=
d in trying different things to make a difference. The primary shop owner i=
s interested in a PV array to offset his huge electric bill and the single =
cab owner wants to do the same at home. The whole thing really gave me a li=
ttle hope for us as a nation. Maybe we're not all oblivious, cell-phone yak=
king, Ford Expedition driving R-tards after all.
=

And for the first time in a few thousand miles, I did have a break-down. Of=
all the days for it to happen....
I did not know this, but the builder of my car joined 2 cables to gain the =
needed length to go from the controller, through the rear firewall, to the =
last battery in the string. The joining lugs were merely wrapped in heavy e=
lectrical tape and heatshrink and they actually met at the hole in the fire=
wall. Well after several thousand miles bouncing around on the highways, th=
e metal edge eventually cut through the tape and gave the total pack (-) an=
d nice path to discharge through the car's body. I heard a sharp HISSS and =
cut the key off and pulled onto a side road. I re-taped everything just fo=
r the day and replaced the cable with a one-piece on Sunday. I swear, overa=
ll the car's design is sound but I'm finding that some of the execution was=
rushed or he was out of money or something.
=

Anyway, I preached the gospel and the heathens were pretty receptive. ;-)
=

Rich A.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Acuti" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:16 AM
Subject: [EVDL] Another good showing



I spent this past Saturday hanging out with the local vintage VW crowd. One
of the local import shops was having a BBQ and show-off to let people know
about their business complete with live music and a trip around the facility
in a rough, old Formula -V racer (read big kid's go-kart).

Everyone had been asking me to bring the E-Beetle down so I did and opened
it up for public consumption. It was a bigger hit than I expected. Everyone
loved it, especially the racers. The shop is looking to build a 914
conversion for a customer and one of the shop owners has an old VW single
cab bus/pickup he now wants to convert. He says it has a huge "treasure
chest" area under the bed that he can load up with batteries.

I think the thing I enjoyed most about the day was the fact that these were
normal, everyday, non-tree-hugging, gas driving, people but everyone was in
agreement that the current situation with regard to gasoline driving and
fossil fuel electricity production cannot stand and they were all interested
in trying different things to make a difference. The primary shop owner is
interested in a PV array to offset his huge electric bill and the single cab
owner wants to do the same at home. The whole thing really gave me a little
hope for us as a nation. Maybe we're not all oblivious, cell-phone yakking,
Ford Expedition driving R-tards after all.

And for the first time in a few thousand miles, I did have a break-down. Of
all the days for it to happen....
I did not know this, but the builder of my car joined 2 cables to gain the
needed length to go from the controller, through the rear firewall, to the
last battery in the string. The joining lugs were merely wrapped in heavy
electrical tape and heatshrink and they actually met at the hole in the
firewall. Well after several thousand miles bouncing around on the highways,
the metal edge eventually cut through the tape and gave the total pack (-)
and nice path to discharge through the car's body. I heard a sharp HISSS and
cut the key off and pulled onto a side road. I re-taped everything just for
the day and replaced the cable with a one-piece on Sunday. I swear, overall
the car's design is sound but I'm finding that some of the execution was
rushed or he was out of money or something.

Anyway, I preached the gospel and the heathens were pretty receptive. ;-)

Rich A.

Hi Rich, an" EVerybody;

Good Show! I do the same stuff and find it heartwarming. The reaction,
that is, when ya do show and tell, among the American Sheeple masses. I do
Cruise Nights at a local restaurant, the LAST one was a Grand Slam; Dave
Oliveria an' I showed up together, Dave with his just up and running super
clean Ranger conversion. He is doing DETAIL stuff,now, charger setup, doing
over wiring, making it all the more showworthy. He has set up charging at
work, and the Ranger will be a workaday part of the family.

Glad ya replaced the cable in it's entirety! NEW rubber grommit through
"Hull" fitting? It's the stupid, overlooked stuff like that that can spoil a
demo! Nobody, well maybe John Wayland, EVer FINISHED their EV! You are
always improving, changing, trying stuff new. Blue Meany comes to mind.
Pristine, ready to go at a key turn, do show and Tell.

Seeya

Bob

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Glad ya replaced the cable in it's entirety! NEW rubber grommit through
"Hull" fitting? It's the stupid, overlooked stuff like that that can spoil a
demo! Nobody, well maybe John Wayland, EVer FINISHED their EV! You are
always improving, changing, trying stuff new. Blue Meany comes to mind.
Pristine, ready to go at a key turn, do show and Tell.

Seeya

Bob

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Bob, you should see Dennis Berube's S10 pickup it's not only done but very
well executed and fast.






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That sounds great. Funny simpsons video from oil producers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fN1SPIJ7v0

or you could go to http://www.myspace.com/tomhanks and see him talk about
his electric conversion and try to convince people.


kenscircus wrote:
>
> Great Show Rich!
>
> This is definitely the most effective crowd to work with. We don't have
> to wait for public acceptance of EV's because of any issues with gas.
> Show-and-tell presentations of EV's can present a "Cool" factor warming
> the public to the idea. Hummers are popular because people think they
> are cool. Presented right, we can create a "Cool" attitude for EV's.
> The crowds that gather around "Tweety"
> http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/983 when we take it to general car
> shows indicate a hunger for a new cool thing. It really works!
>
> Now that's what I'm talking about!
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Acuti <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 7:16 am
> Subject: [EVDL] Another good showing
>
>
>
> I spent this past Saturday hanging out with the local vintage VW crowd.
> One of
> the local import shops was having a BBQ and show-off to let people know
> about
> their business complete with live music and a trip around the facility
> in a
> rough, old Formula -V racer (read big kid's go-kart).
>
> Everyone had been asking me to bring the E-Beetle down so I did and
> opened it up
> for public consumption. It was a bigger hit than I expected. Everyone
> loved it,
> especially the racers. The shop is looking to build a 914 conversion
> for a
> customer and one of the shop owners has an old VW single cab bus/pickup
> he now
> wants to convert. He says it has a huge "treasure chest" area under the
> bed that
> he can load up with batteries.
>
> I think the thing I enjoyed most about the day was the fact that these
> were
> normal, everyday, non-tree-hugging, gas driving, people but everyone
> was in
> agreement that the current situation with regard to gasoline driving
> and fossil
> fuel electricity production cannot stand and they were all interested
> in trying
> different things to make a difference. The primary shop owner is
> interested in a
> PV array to offset his huge electric bill and the single cab owner
> wants to do
> the same at home. The whole thing really gave me a little hope for us
> as a
> nation. Maybe we're not all oblivious, cell-phone yakking, Ford
> Expedition
> driving R-tards after all.
>
> And for the first time in a few thousand miles, I did have a
> break-down. Of all
> the days for it to happen....
> I did not know this, but the builder of my car joined 2 cables to gain
> the
> needed length to go from the controller, through the rear firewall, to
> the last
> battery in the string. The joining lugs were merely wrapped in heavy
> electrical
> tape and heatshrink and they actually met at the hole in the firewall.
> Well
> after several thousand miles bouncing around on the highways, the metal
> edge
> eventually cut through the tape and gave the total pack (-) and nice
> path to
> discharge through the car's body. I heard a sharp HISSS and cut the key
> off and
> pulled onto a side road. I re-taped everything just for the day and
> replaced
> the cable with a one-piece on Sunday. I swear, overall the car's design
> is sound
> but I'm finding that some of the execution was rushed or he was out of
> money or
> something.
>
> Anyway, I preached the gospel and the heathens were pretty receptive.
> ;-)
>
> Rich A.
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Ditto for the BugE. every time I take it out people are always impressed. Mine goes fast enough (mabey a little too fast) and far enough to impress almost everyone. Sure there are always folks who want it to be bigger/faster and go farther but no body doesn't like the fact that it is electric and any who drive it are litterly blown away. With the second generation one I am sure it will be even more of a hit



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Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:56:39 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Another good showing


That sounds great. Funny simpsons video from oil producers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fN1SPIJ7v0

or you could go to http://www.myspace.com/tomhanks and see him talk about
his electric conversion and try to convince people.


kenscircus wrote:
>
> Great Show Rich!
>
> This is definitely the most effective crowd to work with. We don't have
> to wait for public acceptance of EV's because of any issues with gas.
> Show-and-tell presentations of EV's can present a "Cool" factor warming
> the public to the idea. Hummers are popular because people think they
> are cool. Presented right, we can create a "Cool" attitude for EV's.
> The crowds that gather around "Tweety"
> http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/983 when we take it to general car
> shows indicate a hunger for a new cool thing. It really works!
>
> Now that's what I'm talking about!
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Acuti <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 7:16 am
> Subject: [EVDL] Another good showing
>
>
>
> I spent this past Saturday hanging out with the local vintage VW crowd.
> One of
> the local import shops was having a BBQ and show-off to let people know
> about
> their business complete with live music and a trip around the facility
> in a
> rough, old Formula -V racer (read big kid's go-kart).
>
> Everyone had been asking me to bring the E-Beetle down so I did and
> opened it up
> for public consumption. It was a bigger hit than I expected. Everyone
> loved it,
> especially the racers. The shop is looking to build a 914 conversion
> for a
> customer and one of the shop owners has an old VW single cab bus/pickup
> he now
> wants to convert. He says it has a huge "treasure chest" area under the
> bed that
> he can load up with batteries.
>
> I think the thing I enjoyed most about the day was the fact that these
> were
> normal, everyday, non-tree-hugging, gas driving, people but everyone
> was in
> agreement that the current situation with regard to gasoline driving
> and fossil
> fuel electricity production cannot stand and they were all interested
> in trying
> different things to make a difference. The primary shop owner is
> interested in a
> PV array to offset his huge electric bill and the single cab owner
> wants to do
> the same at home. The whole thing really gave me a little hope for us
> as a
> nation. Maybe we're not all oblivious, cell-phone yakking, Ford
> Expedition
> driving R-tards after all.
>
> And for the first time in a few thousand miles, I did have a
> break-down. Of all
> the days for it to happen....
> I did not know this, but the builder of my car joined 2 cables to gain
> the
> needed length to go from the controller, through the rear firewall, to
> the last
> battery in the string. The joining lugs were merely wrapped in heavy
> electrical
> tape and heatshrink and they actually met at the hole in the firewall.
> Well
> after several thousand miles bouncing around on the highways, the metal
> edge
> eventually cut through the tape and gave the total pack (-) and nice
> path to
> discharge through the car's body. I heard a sharp HISSS and cut the key
> off and
> pulled onto a side road. I re-taped everything just for the day and
> replaced
> the cable with a one-piece on Sunday. I swear, overall the car's design
> is sound
> but I'm finding that some of the execution was rushed or he was out of
> money or
> something.
>
> Anyway, I preached the gospel and the heathens were pretty receptive.
> ;-)
>
> Rich A.
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Outstanding, keep up the good work. By the way, what
is your evalbum listing on the VW? I'd like to see
some photos, for reference during our VW conversion...
=



--- Richard Acuti <[email protected]> wrote:

> =

> I spent this past Saturday hanging out with the
> local vintage VW crowd. One of the local import
> shops was having a BBQ and show-off to let people
> know about their business complete with live music
> and a trip around the facility in a rough, old
> Formula -V racer (read big kid's go-kart).
> =

> Everyone had been asking me to bring the E-Beetle
> down so I did and opened it up for public
> consumption. It was a bigger hit than I expected.
> Everyone loved it, especially the racers. The shop
> is looking to build a 914 conversion for a customer
> and one of the shop owners has an old VW single cab
> bus/pickup he now wants to convert. He says it has a
> huge "treasure chest" area under the bed that he can
> load up with batteries.
> =

> I think the thing I enjoyed most about the day was
> the fact that these were normal, everyday,
> non-tree-hugging, gas driving, people but everyone
> was in agreement that the current situation with
> regard to gasoline driving and fossil fuel
> electricity production cannot stand and they were
> all interested in trying different things to make a
> difference. The primary shop owner is interested in
> a PV array to offset his huge electric bill and the
> single cab owner wants to do the same at home. The
> whole thing really gave me a little hope for us as a
> nation. Maybe we're not all oblivious, cell-phone
> yakking, Ford Expedition driving R-tards after all.
> =

> And for the first time in a few thousand miles, I
> did have a break-down. Of all the days for it to
> happen....
> I did not know this, but the builder of my car
> joined 2 cables to gain the needed length to go from
> the controller, through the rear firewall, to the
> last battery in the string. The joining lugs were
> merely wrapped in heavy electrical tape and
> heatshrink and they actually met at the hole in the
> firewall. Well after several thousand miles bouncing
> around on the highways, the metal edge eventually
> cut through the tape and gave the total pack (-) and
> nice path to discharge through the car's body. I
> heard a sharp HISSS and cut the key off and pulled
> onto a side road. I re-taped everything just for
> the day and replaced the cable with a one-piece on
> Sunday. I swear, overall the car's design is sound
> but I'm finding that some of the execution was
> rushed or he was out of money or something.
> =

> Anyway, I preached the gospel and the heathens were
> pretty receptive. ;-)
> =

> Rich A.
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That's cool, but Tom hanks showing off his $70K Scion conversion won't really accomplish that much. AC Propulsion already has a waiting list for those anyway.


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or you could go to http://www.myspace.com/tomhanks and see him talk
about
his electric conversion and try to convince people.



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Yes, the Tom Hanks video is a good one, but I have noticed that nothing
can compete with a live, in person, hands on, EV demonstration. I have
shown lots of impressive videos and given lots of explanations, which
works pretty well, but it is the EV itself that really gets their
attention - especially if they get to test drive it. That makes it all
real.

I have a racing fan co-worker that I have been showing videos to for
almost a year. Videos of the White Zombie, Killacycle and many other
super performance EV's. He still seemed to consider EV's slow and
pokey. One day in the parking I gave him a demonstration... I lit
little Tweety's tire into a scorching, full screem, smoking, burnout
leaving a 15 foot tire print on the pavement. That left him startled,
shocked and really taken back. I then explained, "Now this is just a
tiny little EV that is not even designed for high performance."
That demonstration made the videos of White Zombie beating Corvettes
come to life for him.

You just can't beat the personal touch!

Ken




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From: ampaynz1 <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 9:56 am
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Another good showing



That sounds great. Funny simpsons video from oil producers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fN1SPIJ7v0

or you could go to http://www.myspace.com/tomhanks and see him talk
about
his electric conversion and try to convince people.


kenscircus wrote:
>
> Great Show Rich!
>
> This is definitely the most effective crowd to work with. We don't
have
> to wait for public acceptance of EV's because of any issues with gas.
> Show-and-tell presentations of EV's can present a "Cool" factor
warming
> the public to the idea. Hummers are popular because people think they
> are cool. Presented right, we can create a "Cool" attitude for EV's.
> The crowds that gather around "Tweety"
> http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/983 when we take it to general car
> shows indicate a hunger for a new cool thing. It really works!
>
> Now that's what I'm talking about!
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Acuti <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 7:16 am
> Subject: [EVDL] Another good showing
>
>
>
> I spent this past Saturday hanging out with the local vintage VW
crowd.
> One of
> the local import shops was having a BBQ and show-off to let people
know
> about
> their business complete with live music and a trip around the
facility
> in a
> rough, old Formula -V racer (read big kid's go-kart).
>
> Everyone had been asking me to bring the E-Beetle down so I did and
> opened it up
> for public consumption. It was a bigger hit than I expected. Everyone
> loved it,
> especially the racers. The shop is looking to build a 914 conversion
> for a
> customer and one of the shop owners has an old VW single cab
bus/pickup
> he now
> wants to convert. He says it has a huge "treasure chest" area under
the
> bed that
> he can load up with batteries.
>
> I think the thing I enjoyed most about the day was the fact that
these
> were
> normal, everyday, non-tree-hugging, gas driving, people but everyone
> was in
> agreement that the current situation with regard to gasoline driving
> and fossil
> fuel electricity production cannot stand and they were all interested
> in trying
> different things to make a difference. The primary shop owner is
> interested in a
> PV array to offset his huge electric bill and the single cab owner
> wants to do
> the same at home. The whole thing really gave me a little hope for us
> as a
> nation. Maybe we're not all oblivious, cell-phone yakking, Ford
> Expedition
> driving R-tards after all.
>
> And for the first time in a few thousand miles, I did have a
> break-down. Of all
> the days for it to happen....
> I did not know this, but the builder of my car joined 2 cables to
gain
> the
> needed length to go from the controller, through the rear firewall,
to
> the last
> battery in the string. The joining lugs were merely wrapped in heavy
> electrical
> tape and heatshrink and they actually met at the hole in the
firewall.
> Well
> after several thousand miles bouncing around on the highways, the
metal
> edge
> eventually cut through the tape and gave the total pack (-) and nice
> path to
> discharge through the car's body. I heard a sharp HISSS and cut the
key
> off and
> pulled onto a side road. I re-taped everything just for the day and
> replaced
> the cable with a one-piece on Sunday. I swear, overall the car's
design
> is sound
> but I'm finding that some of the execution was rushed or he was out
of
> money or
> something.
>
> Anyway, I preached the gospel and the heathens were pretty receptive.
> ;-)
>
> Rich A.

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