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Re: [EVDL] BIG EV NEEDED

On 23 Nov 2010 at 12:31, phil galati wrote:

> He is a very large man ... I need to find him a glider to convert that
> he can fit in comfortably.

I seem to recall that Bruce Parmenter always described himself as a "big
guy," back in the day, and he had a converted Chevrolet Blazer. He's back
on the EVDL these days and might have some thoughts, but here's an old page
with some pictures :

http://brucedp.150m.com/blazer/

Check out the photo with 4 multiple power cords coming out the front of the
vehicle. Bruce had a half-dozen inlets across the Blazer's grill, and he
could use most or all of them at once for a speedy charge.

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I got a warning when trying to visit the site below, which said that the
website appears to host malware and that just visiting the site can infect
your computer.

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:23 AM, John G. Lussmyer
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> http://john.casadelgato.com/Electric-Vehicles/1995-Ford-F-250
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The first link doesn't trigger any warnings for me, but the gallery does, in
Chrome. Here's the diagnostic page Google refers to --

http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://john.casadelgato.com/Gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_BlackTruck.JPG&client=googlechrome&hl=en-US

<http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://john.casadelgato.com/Gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_BlackTruck.JPG&client=googlechrome&hl=en-US>
Upon clicking through, I don't actually get any red flags from my antivirus.
You change anything since 11/5 (the date Google says it found malware)?

John G. Lussmyer <[email protected]>wrote:

> That's odd, I don't get any such warning. What browser are you using?
>
> On 11/23/2010 11:47 AM, Dave Hale wrote:
> > I got a warning when trying to visit the site below, which said that the
> > website appears to host malware and that just visiting the site can
> infect
> > your computer.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:23 AM, John G. Lussmyer
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >> http://john.casadelgato.com/Electric-Vehicles/1995-Ford-F-250
> >>
> >>
>
>
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Re: [EVDL] BIG EV NEEDED

phil galati wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have a little problem with one of my customers that wants to build an EV.
> He is a very large man ( 350+ lbs. ) and wants an EV badly. I need to find
> him a glider to convert that he can fit in comfortably. Does anyone have any
> suggestions for a BIG EV enthusiast?
>
> The EV will also have wet batteries so the biggest problem is weight.

I'm not QUITE in that league, about 280 lb and about 6'5". Back in
1981, I went shopping for new "mini" trucks. I found Mazda, Toyota,
Datsun un-comfortably small. For many years now, I have driven
1981-1986 LUV/Isuzu pickups and found them very comfortable. I
haven't judged more modern small trucks, but my impression is that
S10/Coronados and Mazda/Rangers have cabs that are on the small side.
I also have found MGAs, MGBs, Spitfires, ~2000 VW Golf, and my 2007
Hyundai Accent comfortable enough. For a while, we had a MB 300D that
was very roomy.

A Sprinter might make a good larger conversion. If you could find one
with a bad engine. There is easily room and load capacity for 2,000
pounds worth of battery. I've hauled 4,000 pounds in my regular 2500
("3/4 ton").

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Chrome

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, John G. Lussmyer
<[email protected]>wrote:

> That's odd, I don't get any such warning. What browser are you using?
>
> On 11/23/2010 11:47 AM, Dave Hale wrote:
> > I got a warning when trying to visit the site below, which said that the
> > website appears to host malware and that just visiting the site can
> infect
> > your computer.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:23 AM, John G. Lussmyer
> >
<[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >> http://john.casadelgato.com/Electric-Vehicles/1995-Ford-F-250
> >>
> >>
>
>
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Re: [EVDL] BIG EV NEEDED

With tongue in cheek I also recommend a 1972 Honda 600 - or its nearest
modern equivalent, a Fit. ;-)

Back when the 600 was a new car, I was a teenager with a summer job as a
pump jockey, selling 33 cent a gallon gas and 40 cent a pack cigarettes. I
had a regular customer who drove a big land yacht Buick. He was a BIG guy,
a good 6 and a half feet and at least 300lb.

And one day he rolled up in his new Honda 600, effortlessly unfolded himself
from it, bought his smokes, refolded himself into the Honda, and hummed
away.

If my customer could fit in a 1972 Honda 600, I'll bet your customer could
fit in a 2007 or 2008 Honda Fit. And I'm actually semi-serious about that.
But perception is reality, and if he thinks he needs a big EV, then there's
probably no percentage in trying to convince him otherwise.

I mentioned a Blazer (or equivalent) earlier. Another idea: a Saab, Volvo,
or other European "large" car. Maybe even a Camry or Accord. Many such
cars provide quite roomy interiors without weighing as much as, or having
the indifferent aerodynamics of, a traditional body/frame American SUV.

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Thanks for your help Everybody.
I will present all of your ideas and suggestions to my customer.

Phil Galati
NJ EV Conversions


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From: EVDL Administrator
Date: 11/23/2010 6:07:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] BIG EV NEEDED

With tongue in cheek I also recommend a 1972 Honda 600 - or its nearest
modern equivalent, a Fit. ;-)

Back when the 600 was a new car, I was a teenager with a summer job as a
pump jockey, selling 33 cent a gallon gas and 40 cent a pack cigarettes. I
had a regular customer who drove a big land yacht Buick. He was a BIG guy,
a good 6 and a half feet and at least 300lb.

And one day he rolled up in his new Honda 600, effortlessly unfolded himself
from it, bought his smokes, refolded himself into the Honda, and hummed
away.

If my customer could fit in a 1972 Honda 600, I'll bet your customer could
fit in a 2007 or 2008 Honda Fit. And I'm actually semi-serious about that.
But perception is reality, and if he thinks he needs a big EV, then there's
probably no percentage in trying to convince him otherwise.

I mentioned a Blazer (or equivalent) earlier. Another idea: a Saab, Volvo,
or other European "large" car. Maybe even a Camry or Accord. Many such
cars provide quite roomy interiors without weighing as much as, or having
the indifferent aerodynamics of, a traditional body/frame American SUV.

David Roden
EVDL Administrator
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Re: [EVDL] BIG EV NEEDED

Hello,

> With tongue in cheek I also recommend a 1972 Honda 600 - or its nearest
> modern equivalent, a Fit. ;-)
>
> Back when the 600 was a new car, I was a teenager with a summer job as a
> pump jockey, selling 33 cent a gallon gas and 40 cent a pack cigarettes. I
> had a regular customer who drove a big land yacht Buick. He was a BIG guy,
> a good 6 and a half feet and at least 300lb.
>
> And one day he rolled up in his new Honda 600, effortlessly unfolded himself
> from it, bought his smokes, refolded himself into the Honda, and hummed
> away.
>
> If my customer could fit in a 1972 Honda 600, I'll bet your customer could
> fit in a 2007 or 2008 Honda Fit. And I'm actually semi-serious about that.
> But perception is reality, and if he thinks he needs a big EV, then there's
> probably no percentage in trying to convince him otherwise.

I agree -- the Honda Fit is a big car where it counts; on the inside! My brother is 6'-6" and ~275 pounds, and he is completely comfortable in his Fit; front or back seat. And with the Magic backseat, it is probably the best design on the road today.

The Honda Fit (aka Jazz) is a Tardis. I.E. it is bigger on the inside than it is on the outside! ;-)

Sincerely, Neil
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Re: [EVDL] BIG EV NEEDED

I found that Audis and Jeep Cherokees had unusually good leg room. My theory is
the inline motors allowed the foot wells to go deeper. Chevy Camaro with T-tops
has good leg and head room. The winner in my experience is a Dodge full sized
truck -- its the only vehicle I can stretch out my toes and not hit anything.




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Subject: [EVDL] BIG EV NEEDED

Hello Everyone,

I have a little problem with one of my customers that wants to build an EV.
He is a very large man ( 350+ lbs. ) and wants an EV badly. I need to find
him a glider to convert that he can fit in comfortably. Does anyone have any
suggestions for a BIG EV enthusiast?

The EV will also have wet batteries so the biggest problem is weight.



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Re: [EVDL] BIG EV NEEDED

Now we are off into the woods anyway, let me add
a bit of my own experience (although from a rental car).
I received a Nissan Cube and offered a friend a drive.
He is a tall guy like me and when he saw the relatively
short car, he frowned as how much room could be in there
until he sat next to me and was surprised he could stretch
his legs all the way and there was an amazing space inside,
because the Cube is designed, well, as a cube. Typical city
car and bad aerodynamics, but if your customer is OK with
rather odd-looking vehicles then a Cube might appeal to him.
http://www.nissanusa.com/cube/

Just another possibility.

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of David Dymaxion
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] BIG EV NEEDED

I found that Audis and Jeep Cherokees had unusually good leg room. My
theory is the inline motors allowed the foot wells to go deeper. Chevy
Camaro with T-tops has good leg and head room. The winner in my
experience is a Dodge full sized truck -- its the only vehicle I can
stretch out my toes and not hit anything.




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From: phil galati <[email protected]>
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Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 10:31:12 AM
Subject: [EVDL] BIG EV NEEDED

Hello Everyone,

I have a little problem with one of my customers that wants to build an
EV.
He is a very large man ( 350+ lbs. ) and wants an EV badly. I need to
find him a glider to convert that he can fit in comfortably. Does anyone
have any suggestions for a BIG EV enthusiast?

The EV will also have wet batteries so the biggest problem is weight.



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