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> Martin Klingensmith wrote:
> > I went for a short time last evening. The hybrid
> tahoe was a bit
> > annoying eh?
> > Excellent display for some plug-in Priuses though.
> Personally I was kind of depressed by the various
> "big car company"
> offerings. Maybe it is just me, but it seemed that
> they fell into two
> categories - putting a little electric in for the
> green credentials, or
> going overboard (e.g., ford's fuel cell + battery
> system) in a way that
> I suspect will never be commercial (e.g., always
> Of the homegrown stuff, there were two EVehicles; a
> little 1/2 golf cart
> sized "science experiment" from some local
> university, and a lie-down
> squirt-boat-shaped racing unit.
> The former was extruded aluminum, permanent magnet
> DC motor, MillipaK
> Sevcon controller, and (IIRC) 6-8 Trojan deep cycle
> (lead acid?)
> batteries. I didn't get any performance specs, like
> I said, more like a
> golf cart. Chain drive, didn't see any transmission
> or shifting capability.
> The latter I didn't get details of, but I gather the
> races involve
> everyone starting with the same amount of battery
> charge and seeing who
> can go the longest. Nice fiberglass body, and an
> enclosed fiberglass
> trailer for hauling it to race sites.
> There were a handful of diesel cars (VW, MB) for
> either Biodiesel or
> WVO, as well as Burke Fuels, one of the oldest
> Biodiesel suppliers in
> the area.
> The most impressive tent I saw was for a company -
> and of course I
> forget the name - which installs solar for you, for
> free, and sets you
> up to sell back to the grid. They own the system,
> they manage the grid
> coordination, and you get some of the money from
> selling electricity
> back to the grid. It's a pretty sharp idea, IMHO -
> it deals with the
> biggest roadblocks to selling solar electricity into
> the grid:
> 1) No up-front investment in solar cells for the
> 2) One customer (them) with big impact (many homes)
> deals with (usually
> recalcitrant) electric company, rather than
> homeowner (small fry)
> getting run around in circles by the (Electric
> Company) Man.
> 3) Homeowner goes green, gets (some) bill relief out
> of the deal with
> less trouble and risk.
> 4) Assuming the looks don't get worse, improves the
> value of the house.
> The most depressing (tent) I saw was some giant
> car-carrier with an
> enormous ear of corn on it for some ethanol car.
> Ethanol annoys me. If
> we wanted to go biofuels, wouldn't the right thing
> to do be to determine
> the highest-payback crop we could switch to?
> Instead, decades of
> looking out for the corn surplus farmers leaves us
> locked into a sub-par
> ethanol source.
> Overall, the event just wasn't what I'd hoped in
> some way. I brought a
> (normal person) from work along with me, and she
> also felt vaguely
> unsatisfied. I was happier going than not going,
> though 8).
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