[email protected],
Many are not understanding that the chargers are actually installed on the
car that will run on either 120VAC or 240VAC. They will give you the 120V
cord for cheap and charge you a fortune for the 240V cord. Thats all a
"Charge Station" is, is a cord. You can take 240VAC from an installed GFCI
in your garage and put it on the two inlet pins along with a ground, and
make sure the proximity circuit tells the charger when the plug is in and
you're good to go. Its really no different that plugging in your stove or
your dryer, except they want you to buy a real expensive extension cord that
can talk to your car, relay info via Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, average, graph, track
all your power consumption and probably even tell your coffee pot when to
turn on in the morning.
The charger is on the car. Make sure the breaker, cable and plugs are rated
for more than the charger can pull and plug it into a NEMA receptacle. But
I'd never recommend anyone actually do this ;-)
Mike
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Childress, Matthew
<[email protected]>wrote:
> Indeed, I'm aware you don't have to buy the charger and can charge on
> 120. But I'm specifically talking the average Jack or Jill. In that
> case
>
> Do you think that the average car salesperson will:
>
> a) be as aware of it as we are?
> b) if they are aware, wish to lessen their commission by
> informing the customer?
>
> The pitch will sound something like this: "Here is the LEAF, here is
> the special charging station you need to have us install in your garage
> that will charge it full overnight or while you're sitting at your desk
> at work (8 hours). You can charge it on 120, but it will take all day
> (20 hours)..."
>
> I understand that this 20-hour figure is from an "empty" battery pack.
> But Jack/Jill won't.
>
> While you and I (and most on this list) are willing to put up with some
> inconvenience until a better/cheaper option is available, I wonder what
> Jill will do? I wonder what using a non-Nissan charger will do to your
> warranty. Hmm...
>
> The charge times are from NissanUSA's website after a googling of "leaf
> home charging station"
>
> [email protected]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Willie McKemie
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:25 PM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Business?
>
>
Many are not understanding that the chargers are actually installed on the
car that will run on either 120VAC or 240VAC. They will give you the 120V
cord for cheap and charge you a fortune for the 240V cord. Thats all a
"Charge Station" is, is a cord. You can take 240VAC from an installed GFCI
in your garage and put it on the two inlet pins along with a ground, and
make sure the proximity circuit tells the charger when the plug is in and
you're good to go. Its really no different that plugging in your stove or
your dryer, except they want you to buy a real expensive extension cord that
can talk to your car, relay info via Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, average, graph, track
all your power consumption and probably even tell your coffee pot when to
turn on in the morning.
The charger is on the car. Make sure the breaker, cable and plugs are rated
for more than the charger can pull and plug it into a NEMA receptacle. But
I'd never recommend anyone actually do this ;-)
Mike
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Childress, Matthew
<[email protected]>wrote:
> Indeed, I'm aware you don't have to buy the charger and can charge on
> 120. But I'm specifically talking the average Jack or Jill. In that
> case
>
> Do you think that the average car salesperson will:
>
> a) be as aware of it as we are?
> b) if they are aware, wish to lessen their commission by
> informing the customer?
>
> The pitch will sound something like this: "Here is the LEAF, here is
> the special charging station you need to have us install in your garage
> that will charge it full overnight or while you're sitting at your desk
> at work (8 hours). You can charge it on 120, but it will take all day
> (20 hours)..."
>
> I understand that this 20-hour figure is from an "empty" battery pack.
> But Jack/Jill won't.
>
> While you and I (and most on this list) are willing to put up with some
> inconvenience until a better/cheaper option is available, I wonder what
> Jill will do? I wonder what using a non-Nissan charger will do to your
> warranty. Hmm...
>
> The charge times are from NissanUSA's website after a googling of "leaf
> home charging station"
>
> [email protected]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Willie McKemie
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:25 PM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Business?
>
>
