put either of them on a swing arm set up and they
would work as proof of concept anyway...
--- (=A4Phil=A4) <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Both of these ideas will not work because of the
> vehicle's suspension. The =
> body rides up and down relative to the rear wheels. =
> The first idea; the hub =
> motors, would need to move as well. The second idea
> would also fail because =
> the chain would have to be variable length, or the
> motor axle placed at a =
> pivot point that would maintain the exact same
> distance from the wheel axle. =
> Look at how motorcycles do it.
> =
> -Phil
> ----- Original Message ----- =
> From: "ampaynz1" <
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> To: <
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> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Crazy hybrid thought
> =
> =
> >
> > 1st idea:
> > Here is another crazy hybrid idea. Get yourself a
> very light ICE car. Now
> > add a 2" towing receiver to it. Get yourself a 2"
> square pipe to stick in
> > it, doesn't need to be very long at all. The
> shorter you make it the =
> > better
> > for control of the extra wheels. You will have to
> cut it with a grinder or
> > saw it off later on to make it the right length.
> Now get yourself two 3000
> > watt hub motors. Having the axles they go with
> would save you lots of =
> > time.
> > As they could simply be bolted to the 2" tube on
> both sides. If not, you
> > will have to fabricate your own system. Top
> electric speed should be 35mph
> > at 48v. If you want more speed, then turning up
> the juice to 60V might be
> > okay, but wear out brushes faster. I don't think
> more speed then this =
> > could
> > be attained. Then your top speed would be 40mph.
> >
> > 2nd idea - crazier
> > To do this cheaper and easier is possible. Okay,
> this is real crazy. So
> > crazy that a person would really have to be crazy
> to even try it, but I =
> > bet
> > it would work. Car has to be front wheel drive.
> Okay, buy yourself a 10hp
> > motor. Get your self a 1940's motor generator if
> your broke.
> > Now on the left back side of your vehicle you need
> to cut a round hole for
> > the shaft of the motor to stick out. Mount the
> motor in the trunk right =
> > over
> > the back wheel and have it so the the axle of the
> motor sticks out over =
> > the
> > center of the rear wheel. Note you will be able to
> see this from the =
> > outside
> > of the vehicle. It will be a crazy hole sticking
> out. Now attach an
> > industrial type sprocket the motor. Figure out
> your gear ratio for say =
> > 45mph
> > top speed. Taking off will use 600 amps, but
> controllers can put this out.
> > Now take the wheel off the vehicle, but first
> measure how much width from
> > the wheel to the sprocket on the motor. You need
> to know this so when the
> > tire is put back on the two sprockets align
> themselves. To attach the
> > sprocket to the wheel is a little tricky, but not
> impossible. If you have =
> > a
> > sprocket that already has holes in it, then center
> the sprocket on the =
> > wheel
> > and then mark all the wholes with a black marker.
> Now drill the holes. and
> > bolt it to the the wheel. You will need to use
> washers as spacers and then
> > make sure it is level. The wheel is then put back
> on the car. If some =
> > reason
> > the wheel doesn't fit on the vehicle level now
> because of bolt head it =
> > will
> > be necessary to drill another few holes. Now put
> more bolt heads on back
> > side of wheel to get the wheel level when bolted
> back to the car. Now =
> > attach
> > a chain to this and leave it a little lose to
> compensate for bounce of the
> > vehicle. Actually, I think the bounce of the
> vehicle will probably break
> > something. The motor would have to be attached to
> the drive suspension
> > itself and hung in the air, mounted on pipes. So
> literally the motor would
> > move up and down inside the vehicle. This would
> require more holes in the
> > vehicle. to mount the motor.
> >
> >
> >
> > jim karlock wrote:
> >>
> >> Has anyone done the following conversion (a
> cheapskate hybrid):
> >>
> >> Take a standard car.
> >> Add electric motor after the transmission.
> >> Add SMALL battery pack for 10 mile range. No
> charge, regen, etc. Just
> >> 10 miles per trip on electric.
> >> May even live with 30 MPH max: electric on
> streets & arterials, gas on
> >> freeway.
> >> Can switch back an forth to IC by clutch or being
> in neutral.
> >> Average USA daily mileage is about 32, so this
> might be 1/3 of total
> >> use. 2/3 if charging available at destination.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> JK
> >>
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