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My wife found a really great Scientific America magazine from 1909 on E-bay and bought it for me. It tells about the" NEW Machines " They compare 4 types of road power, Steam, gas, electric and horse drawn wagons. It goes on telling the advantages of all 4 and the disadvantages.

Steam takes a long time to ready its self for work, and can BLOW UP !!! causing sever burns to the driver and by-standers
Gas powered vehicles make a lot of noise and keep breaking down, scaring farm animals and people with early morning delivers
Horses need to be fed, groomed, taken to the vet and cleaned up after and can only pull a wagon a few years before its turned into glue
Electrics, are simple, reliable, noiseless, need very little service .

In the magazines words," Electric Vehicles will pave the way for a new type of transportation and delivery services.... Just about all deliverers are made in early morning, news papers, milk, produce, meat. lumber. We can only make one conclusion that the electric delivery vehicle is with out a doubt the best choice for city use"

How about that 1909!!! at the end of the article they also said Gas at its price now will surly double with more demand 1909 !!!!!! History really does repeat itself

I also have magazine adds showing delivery trucks from as early as 1904 showing 2 and 5 and 10 ton trucks used as delivery vehicles carrying lumber, beer, all kinds of freight ....and they did that back then in 1904 !!!!! why the hell cant they do that now!!! eventually they will , they will have to some day...

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Hello Wayne,

Did the article show how they charge the electrics back then. My dad back
then own a electrical company. They install the old tube and knob wiring
which was on the Edison DC voltage. They would plug the EV into a
receptacle on the wall and throw a set of switches that would put several
light bulbs in series with the incoming voltage.

While the EV was charging, they can watch the light bulbs inside the house
go from dim to full brightness. At full brightness the batteries are
consider to be charge.

Roland




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From: "Electric Blue auto convertions" <[email protected]>
To: "ev" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:09 AM
Subject: [EVDL] early electrics


> My wife found a really great Scientific America magazine from 1909 on
> E-bay and bought it for me. It tells about the" NEW Machines " They
> compare 4 types of road power, Steam, gas, electric and horse drawn
> wagons. It goes on telling the advantages of all 4 and the disadvantages.
>
> Steam takes a long time to ready its self for work, and can BLOW UP !!!
> causing sever burns to the driver and by-standers
> Gas powered vehicles make a lot of noise and keep breaking down, scaring
> farm animals and people with early morning delivers
> Horses need to be fed, groomed, taken to the vet and cleaned up after and
> can only pull a wagon a few years before its turned into glue
> Electrics, are simple, reliable, noiseless, need very little service .
>
> In the magazines words," Electric Vehicles will pave the way for a new
> type of transportation and delivery services.... Just about all deliverers
> are made in early morning, news papers, milk, produce, meat. lumber. We
> can only make one conclusion that the electric delivery vehicle is with
> out a doubt the best choice for city use"
>
> How about that 1909!!! at the end of the article they also said Gas at its
> price now will surly double with more demand 1909 !!!!!! History really
> does repeat itself
>
> I also have magazine adds showing delivery trucks from as early as 1904
> showing 2 and 5 and 10 ton trucks used as delivery vehicles carrying
> lumber, beer, all kinds of freight ....and they did that back then in 1904
> !!!!! why the hell cant they do that now!!! eventually they will , they
> will have to some day...
>
> ev-blue.com
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Can you make a scan of those articles for archive purposes? :)

Mike

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Electric Blue auto convertions <
[email protected]> wrote:

> My wife found a really great Scientific America magazine from 1909 on E-bay
> and bought it for me. It tells about the" NEW Machines " They compare 4
> types of road power, Steam, gas, electric and horse drawn wagons. It goes on
> telling the advantages of all 4 and the disadvantages.
>
> Steam takes a long time to ready its self for work, and can BLOW UP !!!
> causing sever burns to the driver and by-standers
> Gas powered vehicles make a lot of noise and keep breaking down, scaring
> farm animals and people with early morning delivers
> Horses need to be fed, groomed, taken to the vet and cleaned up after and
> can only pull a wagon a few years before its turned into glue
> Electrics, are simple, reliable, noiseless, need very little service .
>
> In the magazines words," Electric Vehicles will pave the way for a new type
> of transportation and delivery services.... Just about all deliverers are
> made in early morning, news papers, milk, produce, meat. lumber. We can only
> make one conclusion that the electric delivery vehicle is with out a doubt
> the best choice for city use"
>
> How about that 1909!!! at the end of the article they also said Gas at its
> price now will surly double with more demand 1909 !!!!!! History really does
> repeat itself
>
> I also have magazine adds showing delivery trucks from as early as 1904
> showing 2 and 5 and 10 ton trucks used as delivery vehicles carrying lumber,
> beer, all kinds of freight ....and they did that back then in 1904 !!!!! why
> the hell cant they do that now!!! eventually they will , they will have to
> some day...
>
> ev-blue.com
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They charged in 2 primary ways:
1) Mercury vapor vacuum tube rectifier transformer chargers --- eg. GE or
Westinghouse
2) AC Motor/DC generator --- horizontal or vertical, Hertner comes to mind
as one of the motor/generators available.

The charger was typically in a charging garage, though by 1915 or so, more
and more electric car owners had their own charging capabilities at home.
Milburn was one of the first electric car manufacturers to provide a charger
to the buyer with the car at time of sale.
By 1910 or so, the common charge conductor was the Anderson Electric 100amp
coaxial DC connector. It's what is found on Milburn, Detroit and most other
electric cars from 1910 to 1920's----the National Electric Light Association
(NELA) was the body that electric automobile manufacturers worked thru to
standardize things like charging connectors.

Nothing much new under the sun...

-MT



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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Roland Wiench
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] early electrics

Hello Wayne,

Did the article show how they charge the electrics back then. My dad back
then own a electrical company. They install the old tube and knob wiring
which was on the Edison DC voltage. They would plug the EV into a
receptacle on the wall and throw a set of switches that would put several
light bulbs in series with the incoming voltage.

While the EV was charging, they can watch the light bulbs inside the house
go from dim to full brightness. At full brightness the batteries are
consider to be charge.

Roland




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From: "Electric Blue auto convertions" <[email protected]>
To: "ev" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:09 AM
Subject: [EVDL] early electrics


> My wife found a really great Scientific America magazine from 1909 on
> E-bay and bought it for me. It tells about the" NEW Machines " They
> compare 4 types of road power, Steam, gas, electric and horse drawn
> wagons. It goes on telling the advantages of all 4 and the disadvantages.
>
> Steam takes a long time to ready its self for work, and can BLOW UP !!!
> causing sever burns to the driver and by-standers
> Gas powered vehicles make a lot of noise and keep breaking down, scaring
> farm animals and people with early morning delivers
> Horses need to be fed, groomed, taken to the vet and cleaned up after and
> can only pull a wagon a few years before its turned into glue
> Electrics, are simple, reliable, noiseless, need very little service .
>
> In the magazines words," Electric Vehicles will pave the way for a new
> type of transportation and delivery services.... Just about all deliverers

> are made in early morning, news papers, milk, produce, meat. lumber. We
> can only make one conclusion that the electric delivery vehicle is with
> out a doubt the best choice for city use"
>
> How about that 1909!!! at the end of the article they also said Gas at its

> price now will surly double with more demand 1909 !!!!!! History really
> does repeat itself
>
> I also have magazine adds showing delivery trucks from as early as 1904
> showing 2 and 5 and 10 ton trucks used as delivery vehicles carrying
> lumber, beer, all kinds of freight ....and they did that back then in 1904

> !!!!! why the hell cant they do that now!!! eventually they will , they
> will have to some day...
>
> ev-blue.com
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