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As EVDL administrator I receive email when a member's account is suspended
and/or deleted because it's been bouncing emails. Tonight I saw this terse
message from SJSU's Mailman software :

> [email protected] has been removed from EV.

This, then, is apparently the end. It's sad.

Almost exactly two years ago, in December 2005, an EVDL thread evolved from
the discussion of an "open source" EV, to an online resource with EV
information, including a collection and archive of EVDL material. This led
to the birth of evsource.net.

There seemed to be quite a bit of interest in the idea; search the old
archive at mail-archive.com if you're interested in seeing it. There was
lots of discussion and enthusiasm. Many people contributed views and
opinions.

However, when it came down to actual participation, not much was ever
actually posted on the evforge forum.

Eventually the person behind it seemed to give up on it. The website wasn't
updated for months. Finally it disappeared. The dns stopped resolving long
ago. The domain name expires next month.

In fact, evforge's originator seems to have vanished from the EVDL. His
last post was in June of this year (unless he's still here under a different
name). I hope he's still OK and hasn't lost interest in EVs.

On the positive side, I've noticed that another resource publicized years
ago on the EVDL has survived and, I daresay, prospered.

It went through some tough times, but at least there are current members and
a fair bit of activity at the V is for Voltage Forum (visforvoltage.org).

As has been the case from the start, most of the activity there seems to
focus on scooters and E-bikes. In the year or so the current forum has been
online, they've accumulated a quite respectable 8,500 posts. (For
comparison, the EVDL has logged 29,170 posts in the same amount of time.)

Please note, I'm not posting this to discourage anyone from starting an EV
resource on the net. Granted, it's not easy to succeed, and I doubt that
anyone is getting wealthy from providing EV hobbyist information or support.
But the hobbyist community can use all the support available, and I
encourage those who care enough to put the effort into online EV hobbyist
resources.

IMO, the EVDL - founded 16 years ago! - is still the most comprehensive
resource on the net for EV hobbyists, especially those who are converting
and building enclosed road-legal EVs.

I think the reasons the EVDL works so well are :

(1) It's user-supported and egalitarian. Everyone has an equal voice. For
better and/or worse, there are no rating systems or other methods to turn
"thumbs down" on anyone.

(2) It pretty much runs itself with just a little periodic maintenance from
the administrators.

(3) The information is "pushed" to the members, so they don't have to
remember to go and look at a forum or website.

(4) Since it's simple text, it's trivially easy to contribute, even on a
slow internet connection - just type a bit (or a lot!) and hit "send." We
even have members who read and write to the EVDL with cell phones and other
portable devices.

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/
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Note: mail sent to "evpost" or "etpost" addresses will not
reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my
email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ .
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Another great source of info is; http://endless-sphere.com/forums/

----- Original Message ----
From: David Roden <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 1:49:17 AM
Subject: [EVDL] EV resources : success and failure


As EVDL administrator I receive email when a member's account is
suspended
and/or deleted because it's been bouncing emails. Tonight I saw this
terse
message from SJSU's Mailman software :

> [email protected] has been removed from EV.

This, then, is apparently the end. It's sad.

Almost exactly two years ago, in December 2005, an EVDL thread evolved
from
the discussion of an "open source" EV, to an online resource with EV
information, including a collection and archive of EVDL material. This
led
to the birth of evsource.net.

There seemed to be quite a bit of interest in the idea; search the old
archive at mail-archive.com if you're interested in seeing it. There
was
lots of discussion and enthusiasm. Many people contributed views and
opinions.

However, when it came down to actual participation, not much was ever
actually posted on the evforge forum.

Eventually the person behind it seemed to give up on it. The website
wasn't
updated for months. Finally it disappeared. The dns stopped resolving
long
ago. The domain name expires next month.

In fact, evforge's originator seems to have vanished from the EVDL.
His
last post was in June of this year (unless he's still here under a
different
name). I hope he's still OK and hasn't lost interest in EVs.

On the positive side, I've noticed that another resource publicized
years
ago on the EVDL has survived and, I daresay, prospered.

It went through some tough times, but at least there are current
members and
a fair bit of activity at the V is for Voltage Forum
(visforvoltage.org).

As has been the case from the start, most of the activity there seems
to
focus on scooters and E-bikes. In the year or so the current forum has
been
online, they've accumulated a quite respectable 8,500 posts. (For
comparison, the EVDL has logged 29,170 posts in the same amount of
time.)

Please note, I'm not posting this to discourage anyone from starting an
EV
resource on the net. Granted, it's not easy to succeed, and I doubt
that
anyone is getting wealthy from providing EV hobbyist information or
support.
But the hobbyist community can use all the support available, and I
encourage those who care enough to put the effort into online EV
hobbyist
resources.

IMO, the EVDL - founded 16 years ago! - is still the most comprehensive

resource on the net for EV hobbyists, especially those who are
converting
and building enclosed road-legal EVs.

I think the reasons the EVDL works so well are :

(1) It's user-supported and egalitarian. Everyone has an equal voice.
For
better and/or worse, there are no rating systems or other methods to
turn
"thumbs down" on anyone.

(2) It pretty much runs itself with just a little periodic maintenance
from
the administrators.

(3) The information is "pushed" to the members, so they don't have to
remember to go and look at a forum or website.

(4) Since it's simple text, it's trivially easy to contribute, even on
a
slow internet connection - just type a bit (or a lot!) and hit "send."
We
even have members who read and write to the EVDL with cell phones and
other
portable devices.

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Note: mail sent to "evpost" or "etpost" addresses will not
reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my
email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ .
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =


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