--- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> HELLO
>
> I'm trying to duplicate what Michael did here:
>
>
http://www.texomaev.com-a.googlepages.com/mitsubishieclipseconversion
>
> Using the G-29 Aircraft Generator, and no
> flywheel...a
> direct connection to the transmission.
>
> I have a 1204 upgraded controller from logi
> 48-72volts, and I ran 48volts to the armature
> through
> the controller, and separate 24volts directly to the
> field.
>
> I used 8 awg wire for the 24 volt pack, and used a
> RY115 relay, which I thought was 30 amp, but it
> blew,
> so I removed a relay and connected through a 30 amp
> fuse.
>
> I then started the car, and I really did see that
> much
> difference.
>
> I guess all have to try a 72 volt pack, but I never
> found those improved coil springs for the geo
> metro...so I really didn't want to add another 200
> lbs
> in the rear.
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> Michael Golub
>
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--- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mike, I purchased from JCWhitney a set of helper
> springs that bolt to the rear axle of a front wheel
> drive vehicle. They have them rated from 1000lbs to
> 2000lbs. I purchased the 2000lbs version and so far
> so good. I've got 13 golf cart batteries in the
> back
> of the Eclipse.
>
> If you aren't getting enough torque with the 24volt
> field pack, you might try 36vdc. I seem to have
> plenty of torque at 24vdc, but am running a 78vdc
> pack
> for the armature.
>
>
> --- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > HELLO
> >
> > I'm trying to duplicate what Michael did here:
> >
> >
>
http://www.texomaev.com-a.googlepages.com/mitsubishieclipseconversion
> >
> > Using the G-29 Aircraft Generator, and no
> > flywheel...a
> > direct connection to the transmission.
> >
> > I have a 1204 upgraded controller from logi
> > 48-72volts, and I ran 48volts to the armature
> > through
> > the controller, and separate 24volts directly to
> the
> > field.
> >
> > I used 8 awg wire for the 24 volt pack, and used a
> > RY115 relay, which I thought was 30 amp, but it
> > blew,
> > so I removed a relay and connected through a 30
> amp
> > fuse.
> >
> > I then started the car, and I really did see that
> > much
> > difference.
> >
> > I guess all have to try a 72 volt pack, but I
> never
> > found those improved coil springs for the geo
> > metro...so I really didn't want to add another 200
> > lbs
> > in the rear.
> >
> > thanks in advance,
> >
> > Michael Golub
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > For subscription options, see
> > http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
> >
>
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--- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
> Here's a link to the coil helper springs at
> JCWhitney:
>
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/wcsstore/jcwhitney/images/imagecache/G_15887G_CL_1.jpg
>
> Hopefully the link will work.
>
>
>--- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Mike, I purchased from JCWhitney a set of helper
> > springs that bolt to the rear axle of a front
> wheel
> > drive vehicle. They have them rated from 1000lbs
> to
> > 2000lbs. I purchased the 2000lbs version and so
> far
> > so good. I've got 13 golf cart batteries in the
> > back
> > of the Eclipse.
> >
> > If you aren't getting enough torque with the
> 24volt
> > field pack, you might try 36vdc. I seem to have
> > plenty of torque at 24vdc, but am running a 78vdc
> > pack
> > for the armature.
> >
> >
> > --- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > HELLO
> > >
> > > I'm trying to duplicate what Michael did here:
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.texomaev.com-a.googlepages.com/mitsubishieclipseconversion
> > >
> > > Using the G-29 Aircraft Generator, and no
> > > flywheel...a
> > > direct connection to the transmission.
> > >
> > > I have a 1204 upgraded controller from logi
> > > 48-72volts, and I ran 48volts to the armature
> > > through
> > > the controller, and separate 24volts directly to
> > the
> > > field.
> > >
> > > I used 8 awg wire for the 24 volt pack, and used
> a
> > > RY115 relay, which I thought was 30 amp, but it
> > > blew,
> > > so I removed a relay and connected through a 30
> > amp
> > > fuse.
> > >
> > > I then started the car, and I really did see
> that
> > > much
> > > difference.
> > >
> > > I guess all have to try a 72 volt pack, but I
> > never
> > > found those improved coil springs for the geo
> > > metro...so I really didn't want to add another
> 200
> > > lbs
> > > in the rear.
> > >
> > > thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Michael Golub
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > For subscription options, see
> > > http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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--- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> Do these replace the rear springs I have?
>
> Or is these an additional set?
>
>
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2005887/c-10101/Nty-1/p-2005887/Ntx-mode+matchallpartial/N-10101/tf-Browse/s-10101/Ntk-AllTextSearchGroup?Ntt=helper+springs
>
> --- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Here's a link to the coil helper springs at
> > JCWhitney:
> >
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/wcsstore/jcwhitney/images/imagecache/G_15887G_CL_1.jpg
> >
> > Hopefully the link will work.
> >
> >
> > --- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Mike, I purchased from JCWhitney a set of helper
> > > springs that bolt to the rear axle of a front
> > wheel
> > > drive vehicle. They have them rated from
> 1000lbs
> > to
> > > 2000lbs. I purchased the 2000lbs version and so
> > far
> > > so good. I've got 13 golf cart batteries in the
> > > back
> > > of the Eclipse.
> > >
> > > If you aren't getting enough torque with the
> > 24volt
> > > field pack, you might try 36vdc. I seem to have
> > > plenty of torque at 24vdc, but am running a
> 78vdc
> > > pack
> > > for the armature.
> > >
> > >
> > >--- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > HELLO
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to duplicate what Michael did here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.texomaev.com-a.googlepages.com/mitsubishieclipseconversion
> > > >
> > > > Using the G-29 Aircraft Generator, and no
> > > > flywheel...a
> > > > direct connection to the transmission.
> > > >
> > > > I have a 1204 upgraded controller from logi
> > > > 48-72volts, and I ran 48volts to the armature
> > > > through
> > > > the controller, and separate 24volts directly
> to
> > > the
> > > > field.
> > > >
> > > > I used 8 awg wire for the 24 volt pack, and
> used
> > a
> > > > RY115 relay, which I thought was 30 amp, but
> it
> > > > blew,
> > > > so I removed a relay and connected through a
> 30
> > > amp
> > > > fuse.
> > > >
> > > > I then started the car, and I really did see
> > that
> > > > much
> > > > difference.
> > > >
> > > > I guess all have to try a 72 volt pack, but I
> > > never
> > > > found those improved coil springs for the geo
> > > > metro...so I really didn't want to add another
> > 200
> > > > lbs
> > > > in the rear.
> > > >
> > > > thanks in advance,
> > > >
> > > > Michael Golub
> > > >
> > > >
> _______________________________________________
> > > > For subscription options, see
> > > > http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > For subscription options, see
> > > http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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--- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
> They don't replace the original springs, just add
> them
> to the axle just beind the others, as close to the
> wheel you can. I believe a gentleman did post a
> website earlier in the list of a company that sells
> replacement coil springs to your weight
> specification.
> I believe these addon springs I used are less
> expensive though.
>
> I'm working on a tight no money budget with my
> project, so I've had to keep cost to a minimum.
> Still
> hoping someday, I'll walk outside, and find that a
> 1K
> zilla happened to be left on my doorstep to be
> adopted
> by my EV....... LOL
>
>
>
>
>
> --- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Do these replace the rear springs I have?
> >
> > Or is these an additional set?
> >
> >
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2005887/c-10101/Nty-1/p-2005887/Ntx-mode+matchallpartial/N-10101/tf-Browse/s-10101/Ntk-AllTextSearchGroup?Ntt=helper+springs
> >
> >--- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Here's a link to the coil helper springs at
> > > JCWhitney:
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/wcsstore/jcwhitney/images/imagecache/G_15887G_CL_1.jpg
> > >
> > > Hopefully the link will work.
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mike, I purchased from JCWhitney a set of
> helper
> > > > springs that bolt to the rear axle of a front
> > > wheel
> > > > drive vehicle. They have them rated from
> > 1000lbs
> > > to
> > > > 2000lbs. I purchased the 2000lbs version and
> so
> > > far
> > > > so good. I've got 13 golf cart batteries in
> the
> > > > back
> > > > of the Eclipse.
> > > >
> > > > If you aren't getting enough torque with the
> > > 24volt
> > > > field pack, you might try 36vdc. I seem to
> have
> > > > plenty of torque at 24vdc, but am running a
> > 78vdc
> > > > pack
> > > > for the armature.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > HELLO
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to duplicate what Michael did
> here:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.texomaev.com-a.googlepages.com/mitsubishieclipseconversion
> > > > >
> > > > > Using the G-29 Aircraft Generator, and no
> > > > > flywheel...a
> > > > > direct connection to the transmission.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a 1204 upgraded controller from logi
> > > > > 48-72volts, and I ran 48volts to the
> armature
> > > > > through
> > > > > the controller, and separate 24volts
> directly
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > field.
> > > > >
> > > > > I used 8 awg wire for the 24 volt pack, and
> > used
> > > a
> > > > > RY115 relay, which I thought was 30 amp, but
> > it
> > > > > blew,
> > > > > so I removed a relay and connected through a
> > 30
> > > > amp
> > > > > fuse.
> > > > >
> > > > > I then started the car, and I really did see
> > > that
> > > > > much
> > > > > difference.
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess all have to try a 72 volt pack, but
> I
> > > > never
> > > > > found those improved coil springs for the
> geo
> > > > > metro...so I really didn't want to add
> another
> > > 200
> > > > > lbs
> > > > > in the rear.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks in advance,
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael Golub
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > > > > For subscription options, see
> > > > > http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> _______________________________________________
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--- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> not sure with they'll fit in the Geo.
>
>
> --- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > They don't replace the original springs, just add
> > them
> > to the axle just beind the others, as close to the
> > wheel you can. I believe a gentleman did post a
> > website earlier in the list of a company that
> sells
> > replacement coil springs to your weight
> > specification.
> > I believe these addon springs I used are less
> > expensive though.
> >
> > I'm working on a tight no money budget with my
> > project, so I've had to keep cost to a minimum.
> > Still
> > hoping someday, I'll walk outside, and find that a
> > 1K
> > zilla happened to be left on my doorstep to be
> > adopted
> > by my EV....... LOL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Do these replace the rear springs I have?
> > >
> > > Or is these an additional set?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2005887/c-10101/Nty-1/p-2005887/Ntx-mode+matchallpartial/N-10101/tf-Browse/s-10101/Ntk-AllTextSearchGroup?Ntt=helper+springs
> > >
> > > --- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here's a link to the coil helper springs at
> > > > JCWhitney:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/wcsstore/jcwhitney/images/imagecache/G_15887G_CL_1.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully the link will work.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Mike, I purchased from JCWhitney a set of
> > helper
> > > > > springs that bolt to the rear axle of a
> front
> > > > wheel
> > > > > drive vehicle. They have them rated from
> > > 1000lbs
> > > > to
> > > > > 2000lbs. I purchased the 2000lbs version
> and
> > so
> > > > far
> > > > > so good. I've got 13 golf cart batteries in
> > the
> > > > > back
> > > > > of the Eclipse.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you aren't getting enough torque with the
> > > > 24volt
> > > > > field pack, you might try 36vdc. I seem to
> > have
> > > > > plenty of torque at 24vdc, but am running a
> > > 78vdc
> > > > > pack
> > > > > for the armature.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > HELLO
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm trying to duplicate what Michael did
> > here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.texomaev.com-a.googlepages.com/mitsubishieclipseconversion
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Using the G-29 Aircraft Generator, and no
> > > > > > flywheel...a
> > > > > > direct connection to the transmission.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a 1204 upgraded controller from
> logi
> > > > > > 48-72volts, and I ran 48volts to the
> > armature
> > > > > > through
> > > > > > the controller, and separate 24volts
> > directly
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > field.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I used 8 awg wire for the 24 volt pack,
> and
> > > used
> > > > a
> > > > > > RY115 relay, which I thought was 30 amp,
> but
> > > it
> > > > > > blew,
> > > > > > so I removed a relay and connected through
> a
> > > 30
> > > > > amp
> > > > > > fuse.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I then started the car, and I really did
> see
> > > > that
> > > > > > much
> > > > > > difference.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess all have to try a 72 volt pack,
> but
> > I
> > > > > never
> > > > > > found those improved coil springs for the
> > geo
> > > > > > metro...so I really didn't want to add
> > another
> > > > 200
> > > > > > lbs
> > > > > > in the rear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks in advance,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael Golub
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > For subscription options, see
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> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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--- Bruce Weisenberger <[email protected]> wrote:
> DO NOT USED HELPER SPRINGS.
> A friend of mind used them to fix bad springs which
> where just worn out to get by on the Cheap. He was
> driving down the freeway and hit a rough spot and
> the
> helper springs Shot out side-ways and blew out both
> rear tires. Car was not a pretty site after wards.
>
> There has been a several discussion of this that you
> need to order custom wound springs from a specialty
> shop. I discovered going to a suspension shop for
> hot
> rods that they will measure your car up for custom
> springs and get them ordered up for you. a 4x4
> custom
> shop might be able to help you as well.
>
> --- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > not sure with they'll fit in the Geo.
> >
> >
> > --- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > They don't replace the original springs, just
> add
> > > them
> > > to the axle just beind the others, as close to
> the
> > > wheel you can. I believe a gentleman did post a
> > > website earlier in the list of a company that
> > sells
> > > replacement coil springs to your weight
> > > specification.
> > > I believe these addon springs I used are less
> > > expensive though.
> > >
> > > I'm working on a tight no money budget with my
> > > project, so I've had to keep cost to a minimum.
> > > Still
> > > hoping someday, I'll walk outside, and find that
> a
> > > 1K
> > > zilla happened to be left on my doorstep to be
> > > adopted
> > > by my EV....... LOL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Do these replace the rear springs I have?
> > > >
> > > > Or is these an additional set?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2005887/c-10101/Nty-1/p-2005887/Ntx-mode+matchallpartial/N-10101/tf-Browse/s-10101/Ntk-AllTextSearchGroup?Ntt=helper+springs
> > > >
> > > > --- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Here's a link to the coil helper springs at
> > > > > JCWhitney:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/wcsstore/jcwhitney/images/imagecache/G_15887G_CL_1.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > Hopefully the link will work.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Michael Barkley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Mike, I purchased from JCWhitney a set of
> > > helper
> > > > > > springs that bolt to the rear axle of a
> > front
> > > > > wheel
> > > > > > drive vehicle. They have them rated from
> > > > 1000lbs
> > > > > to
> > > > > > 2000lbs. I purchased the 2000lbs version
> > and
> > > so
> > > > > far
> > > > > > so good. I've got 13 golf cart batteries
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > back
> > > > > > of the Eclipse.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you aren't getting enough torque with
> the
> > > > > 24volt
> > > > > > field pack, you might try 36vdc. I seem
> to
> > > have
> > > > > > plenty of torque at 24vdc, but am running
> a
> > > > 78vdc
> > > > > > pack
> > > > > > for the armature.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > HELLO
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm trying to duplicate what Michael did
> > > here:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.texomaev.com-a.googlepages.com/mitsubishieclipseconversion
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Using the G-29 Aircraft Generator, and
> no
> > > > > > > flywheel...a
> > > > > > > direct connection to the transmission.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a 1204 upgraded controller from
> > logi
> > > > > > > 48-72volts, and I ran 48volts to the
> > > armature
> > > > > > > through
> > > > > > > the controller, and separate 24volts
> > > directly
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > field.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I used 8 awg wire for the 24 volt pack,
> > and
> > > > used
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > RY115 relay, which I thought was 30 amp,
> > but
> > > > it
> > > > > > > blew,
> > > > > > > so I removed a relay and connected
> through
> > a
> > > > 30
> > > > > > amp
> > > > > > > fuse.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I then started the car, and I really did
> > see
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > difference.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I guess all have to try a 72 volt pack,
> > but
> > > I
> > > > > > never
> > > > > > > found those improved coil springs for
> the
> > > geo
> > > > > > > metro...so I really didn't want to add
> > > another
> > > > > 200
> > > > > > > lbs
> > > > > > > in the rear.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks in advance,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Michael Golub
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
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--- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
> I bet that was an experience, that you'd not want to
> do again for sure (was it an EV?). Thanks for that
> heads up, I'll go back and install rubber bumpers on
> the top portion of the car, where the springs sit,
> so
> the springs are restricted from side to side
> movement.
>
>
>
> --- Bruce Weisenberger <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > DO NOT USED HELPER SPRINGS.
> > A friend of mind used them to fix bad springs
> which
> > where just worn out to get by on the Cheap. He was
> > driving down the freeway and hit a rough spot and
> > the
> > helper springs Shot out side-ways and blew out
> both
> > rear tires. Car was not a pretty site after wards.
>
> >
> > There has been a several discussion of this that
> you
> > need to order custom wound springs from a
> specialty
> > shop. I discovered going to a suspension shop for
> > hot
> > rods that they will measure your car up for custom
> > springs and get them ordered up for you. a 4x4
> > custom
> > shop might be able to help you as well.
> >
> > --- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > not sure with they'll fit in the Geo.
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > They don't replace the original springs, just
> > add
> > > > them
> > > > to the axle just beind the others, as close to
> > the
> > > > wheel you can. I believe a gentleman did post
> a
> > > > website earlier in the list of a company that
> > > sells
> > > > replacement coil springs to your weight
> > > > specification.
> > > > I believe these addon springs I used are less
> > > > expensive though.
> > > >
> > > > I'm working on a tight no money budget with my
> > > > project, so I've had to keep cost to a
> minimum.
> > > > Still
> > > > hoping someday, I'll walk outside, and find
> that
> > a
> > > > 1K
> > > > zilla happened to be left on my doorstep to be
> > > > adopted
> > > > by my EV....... LOL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Do these replace the rear springs I have?
> > > > >
> > > > > Or is these an additional set?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2005887/c-10101/Nty-1/p-2005887/Ntx-mode+matchallpartial/N-10101/tf-Browse/s-10101/Ntk-AllTextSearchGroup?Ntt=helper+springs
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Michael Barkley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Here's a link to the coil helper springs
> at
> > > > > > JCWhitney:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/wcsstore/jcwhitney/images/imagecache/G_15887G_CL_1.jpg
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hopefully the link will work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Michael Barkley <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike, I purchased from JCWhitney a set
> of
> > > > helper
> > > > > > > springs that bolt to the rear axle of a
> > > front
> > > > > > wheel
> > > > > > > drive vehicle. They have them rated
> from
> > > > > 1000lbs
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > 2000lbs. I purchased the 2000lbs
> version
> > > and
> > > > so
> > > > > > far
> > > > > > > so good. I've got 13 golf cart
> batteries
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > back
> > > > > > > of the Eclipse.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you aren't getting enough torque with
> > the
> > > > > > 24volt
> > > > > > > field pack, you might try 36vdc. I seem
> > to
> > > > have
> > > > > > > plenty of torque at 24vdc, but am
> running
> > a
> > > > > 78vdc
> > > > > > > pack
> > > > > > > for the armature.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- mike golub <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > HELLO
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm trying to duplicate what Michael
> did
> > > > here:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.texomaev.com-a.googlepages.com/mitsubishieclipseconversion
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Using the G-29 Aircraft Generator, and
> > no
> > > > > > > > flywheel...a
> > > > > > > > direct connection to the transmission.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have a 1204 upgraded controller from
> > > logi
> > > > > > > > 48-72volts, and I ran 48volts to the
> > > > armature
> > > > > > > > through
> > > > > > > > the controller, and separate 24volts
> > > > directly
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > field.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I used 8 awg wire for the 24 volt
> pack,
> > > and
> > > > > used
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > RY115 relay, which I thought was 30
> amp,
> > > but
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > blew,
> > > > > > > > so I removed a relay and connected
> > through
> > > a
> > > > > 30
> > > > > > > amp
> > > > > > > > fuse.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I then started the car, and I really
> did
> > > see
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > difference.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I guess all have to try a 72 volt
> pack,
> > > but
>
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--- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, it works
>
> The problem is that these free old UPS batteries are
> weak. I drove 6 miles.
>
> I'm a little concerned about downshifting. It didn't
> seem it wanted to do it.
>
> What do you do when slowing down?
>
> thanks
> --- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I bet that was an experience, that you'd not want
> to
> > do again for sure (was it an EV?). Thanks for
> that
> > heads up, I'll go back and install rubber bumpers
> on
> > the top portion of the car, where the springs sit,
> > so
> > the springs are restricted from side to side
> > movement.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Bruce Weisenberger <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > DO NOT USED HELPER SPRINGS.
> > > A friend of mind used them to fix bad springs
> > which
> > > where just worn out to get by on the Cheap. He
> was
> > > driving down the freeway and hit a rough spot
> and
> > > the
> > > helper springs Shot out side-ways and blew out
> > both
> > > rear tires. Car was not a pretty site after
> wards.
> >
> > >
> > > There has been a several discussion of this that
> > you
> > > need to order custom wound springs from a
> > specialty
> > > shop. I discovered going to a suspension shop
> for
> > > hot
> > > rods that they will measure your car up for
> custom
> > > springs and get them ordered up for you. a 4x4
> > > custom
> > > shop might be able to help you as well.
> > >
> > >--- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > not sure with they'll fit in the Geo.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Michael Barkley <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > They don't replace the original springs,
> just
> > > add
> > > > > them
> > > > > to the axle just beind the others, as close
> to
> > > the
> > > > > wheel you can. I believe a gentleman did
> post
> > a
> > > > > website earlier in the list of a company
> that
> > > > sells
> > > > > replacement coil springs to your weight
> > > > > specification.
> > > > > I believe these addon springs I used are
> less
> > > > > expensive though.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm working on a tight no money budget with
> my
> > > > > project, so I've had to keep cost to a
> > minimum.
> > > > > Still
> > > > > hoping someday, I'll walk outside, and find
> > that
> > > a
> > > > > 1K
> > > > > zilla happened to be left on my doorstep to
> be
> > > > > adopted
> > > > > by my EV....... LOL
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Do these replace the rear springs I have?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or is these an additional set?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2005887/c-10101/Nty-1/p-2005887/Ntx-mode+matchallpartial/N-10101/tf-Browse/s-10101/Ntk-AllTextSearchGroup?Ntt=helper+springs
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Michael Barkley <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here's a link to the coil helper springs
> > at
> > > > > > > JCWhitney:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/wcsstore/jcwhitney/images/imagecache/G_15887G_CL_1.jpg
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hopefully the link will work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Michael Barkley <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mike, I purchased from JCWhitney a set
> > of
> > > > > helper
> > > > > > > > springs that bolt to the rear axle of
> a
> > > > front
> > > > > > > wheel
> > > > > > > > drive vehicle. They have them rated
> > from
> > > > > > 1000lbs
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > 2000lbs. I purchased the 2000lbs
> > version
> > > > and
> > > > > so
> > > > > > > far
> > > > > > > > so good. I've got 13 golf cart
> > batteries
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > back
> > > > > > > > of the Eclipse.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you aren't getting enough torque
> with
> > > the
> > > > > > > 24volt
> > > > > > > > field pack, you might try 36vdc. I
> seem
> > > to
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > plenty of torque at 24vdc, but am
> > running
> > > a
> > > > > > 78vdc
> > > > > > > > pack
> > > > > > > > for the armature.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- mike golub <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > HELLO
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm trying to duplicate what Michael
> > did
> > > > > here:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.texomaev.com-a.googlepages.com/mitsubishieclipseconversion
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Using the G-29 Aircraft Generator,
> and
> > > no
> > > > > > > > > flywheel...a
> > > > > > > > > direct connection to the
> transmission.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have a 1204 upgraded controller
> from
>
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> I haven't figured out anyway to really downshift with
> the direct drive manual transmission either. I just
> take it out of gear, and coast as much as possible,
> and apply brakes gingerly.
To downshift my clutchless EVs, I'd take my foot off the accelerator so
it's coasting, shift into neutral and then into the lower gear. The
transmission's synchronizers pulled the motor speed down to match. If
there was no need to hurry, a shift took a couple seconds. If I wanted
to do it more quickly, I pushed harder on the gearshift lever so the
synchronizers pulled the speeds together faster.
This works well with some transmissions, poorly with others.
--
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget the perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in -- Leonard Cohen
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--- Lee Hart <[email protected]> wrote:
> Michael Barkley wrote:
> > I haven't figured out anyway to really downshift
> with
> > the direct drive manual transmission either. I
> just
> > take it out of gear, and coast as much as
> possible,
> > and apply brakes gingerly.
>
> To downshift my clutchless EVs, I'd take my foot off
> the accelerator so
> it's coasting, shift into neutral and then into the
> lower gear. The
> transmission's synchronizers pulled the motor speed
> down to match. If
> there was no need to hurry, a shift took a couple
> seconds. If I wanted
> to do it more quickly, I pushed harder on the
> gearshift lever so the
> synchronizers pulled the speeds together faster.
>
> This works well with some transmissions, poorly with
> others.
> --
> Ring the bells that still can ring
> Forget the perfect offering
> There is a crack in everything
> That's how the light gets in -- Leonard Cohen
> --
> Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377,
> leeahart_at_earthlink.net
>
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> --- Lee Hart <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Michael Barkley wrote:
>> > I haven't figured out anyway to really downshift
>> with
>> > the direct drive manual transmission either. I
>> just
>> > take it out of gear, and coast as much as
>> possible,
>> > and apply brakes gingerly.
>>
>> To downshift my clutchless EVs, I'd take my foot off
>> the accelerator so
>> it's coasting, shift into neutral and then into the
>> lower gear. The
>> transmission's synchronizers pulled the motor speed
>> down to match. If
>> there was no need to hurry, a shift took a couple
>> seconds. If I wanted
>> to do it more quickly, I pushed harder on the
>> gearshift lever so the
>> synchronizers pulled the speeds together faster.
>>
>> This works well with some transmissions, poorly with
>> others.
>> --
>> Ring the bells that still can ring
>> Forget the perfect offering
>> There is a crack in everything
>> That's how the light gets in -- Leonard Cohen
>> --
>> Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377,
>> leeahart_at_earthlink.net
>>
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--- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
> HELLO
>
> I'm trying to duplicate what Michael did here:
>
>
http://www.texomaev.com-a.googlepages.com/mitsubishieclipseconversion
>
> Using the G-29 Aircraft Generator, and no
> flywheel...a
> direct connection to the transmission.
>
> I have a 1204 upgraded controller from logi
> 48-72volts, and I ran 48volts to the armature
> through
> the controller, and separate 24volts directly to the
> field.
>
> I used 8 awg wire for the 24 volt pack, and used a
> RY115 relay, which I thought was 30 amp, but it
> blew,
> so I removed a relay and connected through a 30 amp
> fuse.
The shunt field should be a lot less than 30 amps.
Take the resistance and let me know.
>
> I then started the car, and I really did see that
> much
> difference.
Did or did not? What is your problem? Sorry if I
missed that in a previous post. What is it doing and
what is it not doing?
>
> I guess all have to try a 72 volt pack, but I never
> found those improved coil springs for the geo
> metro...so I really didn't want to add another 200
> lbs
> in the rear.
The higher pack voltage will help at higher speeds.
If you're working at lower speeds, like acceleration
from a stop, you should be in current limit and higher
pack voltage on the armature shouldn't play a role.
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> Michael Golub
Give me some more details and I might offer some help.
Jeff M
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--- Jeff Major <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> Michael had some problems with low starting torque.
> I
> was able to give him help. I might be able to help
> you out also, but need some more info. See inserted
> comments.......
>
>
> --- mike golub <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > HELLO
> >
> > I'm trying to duplicate what Michael did here:
> >
> >
>
http://www.texomaev.com-a.googlepages.com/mitsubishieclipseconversion
> >
> > Using the G-29 Aircraft Generator, and no
> > flywheel...a
> > direct connection to the transmission.
> >
> > I have a 1204 upgraded controller from logi
> > 48-72volts, and I ran 48volts to the armature
> > through
> > the controller, and separate 24volts directly to
> the
> > field.
> >
> > I used 8 awg wire for the 24 volt pack, and used a
> > RY115 relay, which I thought was 30 amp, but it
> > blew,
> > so I removed a relay and connected through a 30
> amp
> > fuse.
>
> The shunt field should be a lot less than 30 amps.
> Take the resistance and let me know.
>
> >
> > I then started the car, and I really did see that
> > much
> > difference.
>
> Did or did not? What is your problem? Sorry if I
> missed that in a previous post. What is it doing
> and
> what is it not doing?
>
> >
> > I guess all have to try a 72 volt pack, but I
> never
> > found those improved coil springs for the geo
> > metro...so I really didn't want to add another 200
> > lbs
> > in the rear.
>
> The higher pack voltage will help at higher speeds.
> If you're working at lower speeds, like acceleration
> from a stop, you should be in current limit and
> higher
> pack voltage on the armature shouldn't play a role.
>
> >
> > thanks in advance,
> >
> > Michael Golub
>
> Give me some more details and I might offer some
> help.
>
> Jeff M
>
>
>
>
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