--- damon henry <
[email protected]> wrote:
> It always seems like the other guys are the
> fortunate ones. Keep your chin up, at least once in
> your life it will be your turn.
> As far as finding cheap motors it's mostly a myth
> and often only a part of the story gets told.
Hey Damon
There are great deals to be had out there using
forklift motors and getting not only a great motor
core but also a great deal. But as Damon states that
can be hit or miss with to many factors to weigh in
on. In general the older the forklift model the
cheaper the core usually is. Happening across one of
those older cores, and in good shape is a lucky find
8^)
> I have been with Jim Husted and watched him motor
> scrounging. He's a pro and can spot what is good
> and what is junk, then he can bring it back to his
> shop and fix anything that is wrong. He has the
> tools, the know how, and a working knowledge of the
> cost of replacement parts.
Well that's what a 1/4 century will do for ya, lol.
> EVen at this, it is hard
> for him to compete pricewise with a brand new warp
> motor. In order to do so, he likely has to donate
> some of the labor, but it breaks up the monotony of
> his usual work and he is passionate about the EV
> cause. I suspect if he factored in all the
> transportation, time, parts, and overhead and
> charged accordingly that his used motors would cost
> just as much as a brand new one.
I wouldn't go that far but will conceed that there are
new motors out there that give me a ceiling value.
> In fact you can take a look at what he did for me as
> an example, although perhaps one of the more
> extreme...
> I paid $200 for a motor core that Jim helped me pick
> out. He probably added $150 worth of free parts
> that he had handy, plus spent 2 full days in his
> shop supervising my 16 year old son and I as we
> worked together to rebuild and modify the motor for
> use in our Datsun truck. He did not do any of his
> own work during these two days, he just took the
> days off and helped us.
Well when I spouted out at you I was hoping you lived
in Maine or something and would never take me up on it
8^P
> So my story is that I got my motor for $200 dollars
> from a forklift junk yard, but in reality if you add
> up the total costs of Jim's parts and time, plus a
> two day trip for my son and I to Redmond Oregon, my
> little motor probably cost more than a Warp 9. Of
> course we all got a lot more than a motor out of the
> deal, but like I said there is usually an untold
> part of the story.
Well if we dig deeper into this story Mike is the one
who built it and there was some additional time
involved there. Add to this that there was chitchat
and visiting going on (your motor bares the resulting
distraction scars, LMAO)
In general though you're right in that if I can break
up the time and do a motor when not pressed for lift
motor time then I can treat people a little kinder 8^)
> Your not likely to get quite as lucky as me, but if
> you want a sure fire way to get more than what you
> are paying for on a motor contact Jim Husted. Also
> realize that not every EV needs an 8 or a 9 inch
> motor. Many have been built using 6 and 7 inch
> motors which are much easier to come by at lower
> prices. If you want to know the difference between
> using a 6 inch motor and a 9 inch motor when you
> talk to Jim ask him to give you his wheelbarrow
> analogy
Don't be knocking on my wheelbarrow stories ;^)
Honestly, EVeryone just screams about motor ETA and
just crawl out of their skin till it ships. I'm
guessing at least half sit for a year before running,
LMAO!!! so many of you are a little farther than you
might first think. With that said be patient and do
your homework and go out and beat your local bushes
for your perfect core deal, it is there to be found
I'm all but sure of it 8^)
A great, but real hit or miss place to find motors are
at metal scrap yards. My shop neighbor Dan bought 3
motors from our local place. He got an MKB 12 brush
Prestolite, a 9" Prestolite pump motor (all but a
direct copy of the FB1 motor)(needs a new shaft and
drive plate) and another 13" 72 volt Allis Chalmer
motor like the beast I did for Wayland. All for, get
this.... 7 dollars, something like ten cents a pound,
LMAO. This was a bit ago before metal prices jumped
but still. Dan got lucky, but he kept going back and
found these hiden in the rubble. I weasled the big
boy from him fixing one of the small ones for him,
yeah I know I'm EVil, lol.
Anyway going back to your motor, 200.00 plus a shaft,
bearings and brushes isn't anywhere near the cost of a
new motor even having me do one for ya.
FWIW as for this threads title, the Warp brand of
motors are well built motors and drive lots of
vehicles around for those not lucky enough to have
motors handed to them or don't live on the legendary
island of motors 8^)
Had fun, hope this helps
Jim Husted
Hi-Torque Electric
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