Below is what sounds like the answer to our prayers. However it may be a
hoax or a lie designed to filtch investors. This kind of free or amazing
energy source comes up every once in a while on this list so the below
article is a textbook example of what I call feeding the pigeons. We all
are the pigeons. One tip off is time and money will be needed to prove the
process. The other is the question of weather the radio frequency power
input is offset by the power output of the flame of (chuckle) burning salt
water. If you see something like this below turn on your bs detector. No
offense to Remy or the ET list. He is just passing along information from
many sources. He lets you make the decision as to the truth of the
articles. In the past EV list members have ferreted out lies. So keep your
money in your pocket and make sure devices or other methods of fuel are
proven before investing. Lawrence Rhodes....
Salt water as fuel? Erie man hopes so
Posted by: "Remy Chevalier" [email protected] cleannewworld
Date: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:20 am ((PDT))
Salt water as fuel? Erie man hopes so
Sunday, September 09, 2007
By David Templeton, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07252/815920-85.stm
For obvious reasons, scientists long have thought that salt water couldn't
be burned.
So when an Erie man announced he'd ignited salt water with the
radio-frequency generator he'd invented, some thought it a was a hoax.
John Kanzius, a Washington County native, tried to desalinate seawater with
a generator he developed to treat cancer, and it caused a flash in the test
tube.
Within days, he had the salt water in the test tube burning like a candle,
as long as it was exposed to radio frequencies.
His discovery has spawned scientific interest in using the world's most
abundant substance as clean fuel, among other uses.
Rustum Roy, a Penn State University chemist, held a demonstration last week
at the university's Materials Research Laboratory in State College, to
confirm what he'd witnessed weeks before in an Erie lab.
"It's true, it works," Dr. Roy said. "Everyone told me, 'Rustum, don't be
fooled. He put electrodes in there.' "
But there are no electrodes and no gimmicks, he said.
Dr. Roy said the salt water isn't burning per se, despite appearances. The
radio frequency actually weakens bonds holding together the constituents of
salt water -- sodium chloride, hydrogen and oxygen -- and releases the
hydrogen, which, once ignited, burns continuously when exposed to the RF
energy field. Mr. Kanzius said an independent source measured the flame's
temperature, which exceeds 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit, reflecting an enormous
energy output.
As such, Dr. Roy, a founding member of the Materials Research Laboratory and
expert in water structure, said Mr. Kanzius' discovery represents "the most
remarkable in water science in 100 years."
But researching its potential will take time and money, he said. One
immediate question is energy efficiency: The energy the RF generator uses
vs. the energy output from burning hydrogen.
Dr. Roy said he's scheduled to meet tomorrow with U.S. Department of Energy
and Department of Defense officials in Washington to discuss the discovery
and seek research funding.
Mr. Kanzius said he powered a Stirling, or hot air, engine with salt water.
But whether the system can power a car or be used as an efficient fuel will
depend on research results.
"We will get our ideas together and check this out and see where it leads,"
Dr. Roy said. "The potential is huge.
"In the life sciences, the role of water is infinite, and this guy is doing
something new in using the most important and most abundant material on the
face of the earth."
Mr. Kanzius' discovery was an accident.
He developed the RF generator as a novel cancer treatment. His research in
targeting cancer cells with metallic nanoparticles then destroying them with
radio-frequency is proceeding at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center
and at the University of Texas' MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston.
Manuscripts updating the cancer research are in preparation for publication
in coming months, Mr. Kanzius said.
While Mr. Kanzius was demonstrating how his generator heated nanoparticles,
someone noted condensation inside the test tube and suggested he try using
his equipment to desalinate water.
So, Mr. Kanzius said, he put sea water in a test tube, then trained his
machine on it, producing an unexpected spark. In time he and laboratory
owners struck a match and ignited the water, which continued burning as long
as it remained in the radio-frequency field.
During several trials, heat from burning hydrogen grew hot enough to melt
the test tube, he said. Dr. Roy's tests on the machine last week provided
further evidence that the process is releasing and burning hydrogen from the
water. Tests on different water solutions and concentrations produced
various temperatures and flame colors.
"This is the most abundant element in the world. It is everywhere," Dr. Roy
said of salt water. "Seeing it burn gives me chills."
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hoax or a lie designed to filtch investors. This kind of free or amazing
energy source comes up every once in a while on this list so the below
article is a textbook example of what I call feeding the pigeons. We all
are the pigeons. One tip off is time and money will be needed to prove the
process. The other is the question of weather the radio frequency power
input is offset by the power output of the flame of (chuckle) burning salt
water. If you see something like this below turn on your bs detector. No
offense to Remy or the ET list. He is just passing along information from
many sources. He lets you make the decision as to the truth of the
articles. In the past EV list members have ferreted out lies. So keep your
money in your pocket and make sure devices or other methods of fuel are
proven before investing. Lawrence Rhodes....
Salt water as fuel? Erie man hopes so
Posted by: "Remy Chevalier" [email protected] cleannewworld
Date: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:20 am ((PDT))
Salt water as fuel? Erie man hopes so
Sunday, September 09, 2007
By David Templeton, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07252/815920-85.stm
For obvious reasons, scientists long have thought that salt water couldn't
be burned.
So when an Erie man announced he'd ignited salt water with the
radio-frequency generator he'd invented, some thought it a was a hoax.
John Kanzius, a Washington County native, tried to desalinate seawater with
a generator he developed to treat cancer, and it caused a flash in the test
tube.
Within days, he had the salt water in the test tube burning like a candle,
as long as it was exposed to radio frequencies.
His discovery has spawned scientific interest in using the world's most
abundant substance as clean fuel, among other uses.
Rustum Roy, a Penn State University chemist, held a demonstration last week
at the university's Materials Research Laboratory in State College, to
confirm what he'd witnessed weeks before in an Erie lab.
"It's true, it works," Dr. Roy said. "Everyone told me, 'Rustum, don't be
fooled. He put electrodes in there.' "
But there are no electrodes and no gimmicks, he said.
Dr. Roy said the salt water isn't burning per se, despite appearances. The
radio frequency actually weakens bonds holding together the constituents of
salt water -- sodium chloride, hydrogen and oxygen -- and releases the
hydrogen, which, once ignited, burns continuously when exposed to the RF
energy field. Mr. Kanzius said an independent source measured the flame's
temperature, which exceeds 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit, reflecting an enormous
energy output.
As such, Dr. Roy, a founding member of the Materials Research Laboratory and
expert in water structure, said Mr. Kanzius' discovery represents "the most
remarkable in water science in 100 years."
But researching its potential will take time and money, he said. One
immediate question is energy efficiency: The energy the RF generator uses
vs. the energy output from burning hydrogen.
Dr. Roy said he's scheduled to meet tomorrow with U.S. Department of Energy
and Department of Defense officials in Washington to discuss the discovery
and seek research funding.
Mr. Kanzius said he powered a Stirling, or hot air, engine with salt water.
But whether the system can power a car or be used as an efficient fuel will
depend on research results.
"We will get our ideas together and check this out and see where it leads,"
Dr. Roy said. "The potential is huge.
"In the life sciences, the role of water is infinite, and this guy is doing
something new in using the most important and most abundant material on the
face of the earth."
Mr. Kanzius' discovery was an accident.
He developed the RF generator as a novel cancer treatment. His research in
targeting cancer cells with metallic nanoparticles then destroying them with
radio-frequency is proceeding at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center
and at the University of Texas' MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston.
Manuscripts updating the cancer research are in preparation for publication
in coming months, Mr. Kanzius said.
While Mr. Kanzius was demonstrating how his generator heated nanoparticles,
someone noted condensation inside the test tube and suggested he try using
his equipment to desalinate water.
So, Mr. Kanzius said, he put sea water in a test tube, then trained his
machine on it, producing an unexpected spark. In time he and laboratory
owners struck a match and ignited the water, which continued burning as long
as it remained in the radio-frequency field.
During several trials, heat from burning hydrogen grew hot enough to melt
the test tube, he said. Dr. Roy's tests on the machine last week provided
further evidence that the process is releasing and burning hydrogen from the
water. Tests on different water solutions and concentrations produced
various temperatures and flame colors.
"This is the most abundant element in the world. It is everywhere," Dr. Roy
said of salt water. "Seeing it burn gives me chills."
_______________________________________________
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