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I am building an EV car and would like to race it, I have found the organization
NEDRA. It seems they are part of the EAAEV, and claim to be for non-profit. I
have requested info from NEDRA on where my money would be spent and their tax
free status and received no response? Who is the owner of NEDRA? Why are they
not listed with the IRS as non-profit? Is this just a club or professional
organization? Who accounts for NEDRA's sponsorship money and when was the last
audit? I may seem like a worry wart, but I need all the facts before I join an
organization.

Fredrick




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Nedra is a shoe string budget organization that is legit and full of benefits for the $25 membership fee or whatever it is they charge. It is my understanding that they operate under EEAEV's non profit status as a special chapter or some such thing. You do not have to be a Nedra member to take your car to a local dragstrip and race, but because of Nedra it is much easier to do as they have worked with the NHRA to establish safety standards for drag racing EVs. I believe the current president of Nedra still monitors this list and will likely give you all the details you want, but if not you may want to ask the same question on the Yahoo Nedra list.
damon

> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:09:33 -0800
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [EVDL] NEDRA History
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> I am building an EV car and would like to race it, I have found the organization
> NEDRA. It seems they are part of the EAAEV, and claim to be for non-profit. I
> have requested info from NEDRA on where my money would be spent and their tax
> free status and received no response? Who is the owner of NEDRA? Why are they
> not listed with the IRS as non-profit? Is this just a club or professional
> organization? Who accounts for NEDRA's sponsorship money and when was the last
> audit? I may seem like a worry wart, but I need all the facts before I join an
> organization.
>
> Fredrick
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Good grief, its only $ 25.00 !! Google on NEDRA and see what it is what they are
about and even if it is not a non profit its STILL ONLY $25.00 bucks!! OMG. If
$25.00 is that big a deal to you maybe you have no business racing anything.
That amount might buy a set of legal lugnuts for one wheel on a well known
datsun ev or maybe a masterlink for the drive chain on Current Eliminator!! I
have a hard time thinking of what that amount of money would buy for BDs bike.
What disrespect to all the good people, blood sweat and tears that went into
forming NEDRA, and all that this organization has accomplished. Sheesh.

David Chapman.

PS, Yes David R, I did think twice about sending this but ya know, sometimes you
just get fed up..




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Subject: [EVDL] NEDRA History

I am building an EV car and would like to race it, I have found the organization

NEDRA. It seems they are part of the EAAEV, and claim to be for non-profit. I
have requested info from NEDRA on where my money would be spent and their tax
free status and received no response? Who is the owner of NEDRA? Why are they
not listed with the IRS as non-profit? Is this just a club or professional
organization? Who accounts for NEDRA's sponsorship money and when was the last
audit? I may seem like a worry wart, but I need all the facts before I join an
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Fredrick




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Okay, I am getting the picture. I hope someone from NEDRA responds. Is NEDRA
owned by the board members or is their one person behind the scenes as
private owner? Who's name has been filed with the IRS as owner? These
questions are very important, if you are a member you take on some
responsibility.

If my questions can be answered, I will most likely join.

Fredrick
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If you go to http://www.eaaev.org and note what is under the title and
then go to http://www.eaaev.org/eaachapters.html and scroll down to
nearly the bottom of the page you will get your answer.

Fredrick Monnicci <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Okay, I am getting the picture. I hope someone from NEDRA responds. Is NEDRA
> owned by the board members or is their one person behind the scenes as
> private owner? Who's name has been filed with the IRS as owner? These
> questions are very important, if you are a member you take on some
> responsibility.
>
> If my questions can be answered, I will most likely join.
>
> Fredrick
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My humble suggestion for your case: Go to an event and sign up there. Why take
anything on faith? A bunch of IRS paperwork doesn't prove much except that
someone filed some paperwork. Seeing real live EVs showing up at an event is
reality!

BTW I raced at a NEDRA event without a membership. If you are honestly worried
about entangling liabilities, just go race and don't sign up.



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Okay, I am getting the picture. I hope someone from NEDRA responds. Is NEDRA
owned by the board members or is their one person behind the scenes as
private owner? Who's name has been filed with the IRS as owner? These
questions are very important, if you are a member you take on some
responsibility.

If my questions can be answered, I will most likely join.



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I fully agree - EXCEPT - If you sert a record and do not belong to NEDRA - =
the =

recordwon't be recorded and does not count. You have to be a NEDRA membe=
r for =

that. My own fault I guess. Heck, it was my first "legitimate" drag r=
ace in =

over 2 decades. Still have the timeslip though.


RW




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From: David Dymaxion <[email protected]>
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 9:40:11 PM
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My humble suggestion for your case: Go to an event and sign up there. Why t=
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anything on faith? A bunch of IRS paperwork doesn't prove much except that =

someone filed some paperwork. Seeing real live EVs showing up at an event i=
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reality!

BTW I raced at a NEDRA event without a membership. If you are honestly worr=
ied =

about entangling liabilities, just go race and don't sign up.



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To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 9:41:39 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] NEDRA History


Okay, I am getting the picture. I hope someone from NEDRA responds. Is NEDRA
owned by the board members or is their one person behind the scenes as
private owner? Who's name has been filed with the IRS as owner? These
questions are very important, if you are a member you take on some
responsibility.

If my questions can be answered, I will most likely join.


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Go to www.nedra.com

Thanks;
Dennis
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-----Original Message-----
From: Fredrick Monnicci [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EVDL] NEDRA History

I am building an EV car and would like to race it, I have found the
organization
NEDRA. It seems they are part of the EAAEV, and claim to be for
non-profit. I
have requested info from NEDRA on where my money would be spent and
their tax
free status and received no response? Who is the owner of NEDRA? Why are
they
not listed with the IRS as non-profit? Is this just a club or
professional
organization? Who accounts for NEDRA's sponsorship money and when was
the last
audit? I may seem like a worry wart, but I need all the facts before I
join an
organization.

Fredrick




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You should read the information on the NEDRA website. If you cannot even
do enough research to find your way there then what hope do you have of
building and racing an EV? You have never sent me an e-mail to ask any of
these questions. My advice is for you to forget about NEDRA, and EV racing
for that matter, at least until you have a car rolling for which you can
submit time slips. When you do have a car to the level of setting a record
and you want it permanently recorded and recognized by a worldwide racing
organization, then we can talk about compensation in exchange for your
membership. Until then good luck in your endeavors.

Fredrick Monnicci <[email protected]>wrote:

> I am building an EV car and would like to race it, I have found the
> organization
> NEDRA. It seems they are part of the EAAEV, and claim to be for non-profit.
> I
> have requested info from NEDRA on where my money would be spent and their
> tax
> free status and received no response? Who is the owner of NEDRA? Why are
> they
> not listed with the IRS as non-profit? Is this just a club or professional
> organization? Who accounts for NEDRA's sponsorship money and when was the
> last
> audit? I may seem like a worry wart, but I need all the facts before I join
> an
> organization.
>
> Fredrick
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Frederick,
Nedra is a legitimate organization of electric racers. Your best bet for
finding out the history and status of the organization is to go to their
website and ask questions from John Waland, Roderick Wilde and Bill Dube, as
I believe that these were the original founders of the group. I myself have
been a lifetime member from their early days. It is my understanding that
Nedra applied for non profit status last year, after many years of trying to
exist as a self funded organization of hobbyists.
You won't find many Nedra members on this list as most of them were
requested to take their conversations elsewhere by the list moderator a few
years ago, and they complied by starting their own discussion list.
I hope that this helps.
Tom True
(Owner of the Silver Bullet, 8 time world record holder of the 156V and 2
time world record holder of the 120V classes ( and still holding both)).

Fredrick Monnicci <[email protected]>wrote:

> I am building an EV car and would like to race it, I have found the
> organization
> NEDRA. It seems they are part of the EAAEV, and claim to be for non-profit.
> I
> have requested info from NEDRA on where my money would be spent and their
> tax
> free status and received no response? Who is the owner of NEDRA? Why are
> they
> not listed with the IRS as non-profit? Is this just a club or professional
> organization? Who accounts for NEDRA's sponsorship money and when was the
> last
> audit? I may seem like a worry wart, but I need all the facts before I join
> an
> organization.
>
> Fredrick
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You would think that if somebody copied an entire web site they would at least
know what it contains......
I could be wrong :)


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To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, January 28, 2011 10:26:32 AM
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Go to www.nedra.com

Thanks;
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From: Fredrick Monnicci [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EVDL] NEDRA History

I am building an EV car and would like to race it, I have found the
organization
NEDRA. It seems they are part of the EAAEV, and claim to be for
non-profit. I
have requested info from NEDRA on where my money would be spent and
their tax
free status and received no response? Who is the owner of NEDRA? Why are
they
not listed with the IRS as non-profit? Is this just a club or
professional
organization? Who accounts for NEDRA's sponsorship money and when was
the last
audit? I may seem like a worry wart, but I need all the facts before I
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organization.

Fredrick




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Hey Mike,
This sounds like bad advice to me, although I suspect your answer is a little terse due to what seems to be a troll trying to stir things up.
If I had a friend that came to me for advice on how to build an EV to drag race the first place I would send them to is Nedra. I would want them to know how to build the vehicle to the proper safety standards which are well defined by Nedra. I would also want them to be able to interact with the experienced racers at Nedra who have already learned soooo many things the hard way. In fact, if I remember correctly that was the exact position that you were in building the Crazy Horse Pinto. I remember seeing you at Nedra events and having many online discussions with other Nedra racers while putting that orange beast together :)
damon

> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:46:04 -0900
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] NEDRA History
>
> these questions. My advice is for you to forget about NEDRA, and EV racing
> for that matter, at least until you have a car rolling for which you can
> submit time slips. When you do have a car to the level of setting a record
> and you want it permanently recorded and recognized by a worldwide racing
> organization, then we can talk about compensation in exchange for your
> membership. Until then good luck in your endeavors.


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Sure Damon and I still take that stance. But none of that stuff you
describe that I did and said has been done by this individual. If it had
I'm sure there would be someone stand up for him and tell of all the good
plans he has and what kind of car he wants to build, or batteries he wants
to get or the type of motors he wants to use.... etc. He hasn't even done
that for himself.

Like I said this person has not contacted me and I'm one of the easiest
persons to find and get ahold of in this organization. If he had I'd have
given him the answers he wants. If this person truly was interested in EV
Racing then why would he lead with a spade?

damon henry <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hey Mike,
> This sounds like bad advice to me, although I suspect your answer is a
> little terse due to what seems to be a troll trying to stir things up.
> If I had a friend that came to me for advice on how to build an EV to drag
> race the first place I would send them to is Nedra. I would want them to
> know how to build the vehicle to the proper safety standards which are well
> defined by Nedra. I would also want them to be able to interact with the
> experienced racers at Nedra who have already learned soooo many things the
> hard way. In fact, if I remember correctly that was the exact position
> that you were in building the Crazy Horse Pinto. I remember seeing you at
> Nedra events and having many online discussions with other Nedra racers
> while putting that orange beast together :)
> damon
>
> > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:46:04 -0900
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] NEDRA History
> >
> > these questions. My advice is for you to forget about NEDRA, and EV
> racing
> > for that matter, at least until you have a car rolling for which you can
> > submit time slips. When you do have a car to the level of setting a
> record
> > and you want it permanently recorded and recognized by a worldwide racing
> > organization, then we can talk about compensation in exchange for your
> > membership. Until then good luck in your endeavors.
>
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I would add that you find the closest EAA chapter (all chapters are
listed on their web site as indicated in a previous message) and go to
a few meetings and talk with people who have built their own EV. You
can attend as many meetings as you like at no charge, but I'm sure
that, if you're serious about building an EV, you will want to join.
That will also get you their monthly newsletter. I haven't seen any
mention of where you are located so I can't recommend a chapter, but
they are easy to find.

Dave Davidson
NEDRA SP/C record holder

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