Wayne,
You are almost always on the mark.... My feeling....if people have money to
spend to have me convert their cars, I don't care what the donor car is
(except a hummer as I have a psychological problem with that) as long as
their money is green. I agree with you on the Volt. It was suppose to be
at Carnegie Mellon and according to a friend they cancelled because all of
the Volts were "recalled" back to the factory...
Recalled....already? You have a great vision Wayne!!! How did you
know......
Sincerely;
Douglas A. Stansfield
President
www.TransAtlanticElectricConversions.com
973-875-6276 (office)
973-670-9208 (cell)
973-440-1619 (fax)
ELECTRIC CAR PRODUCERS
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Electric Blue auto convertions
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:13 AM
To: ev
Subject: [EVDL] point, counter point
Dennis made some good points about EV conversions, But he missed the big
one, starting with a rust bucket is foolish unless you have more money then
God. Right now in Wichita you can buy a 2010 Kia for about 9800$, Yes its a
shopping cart with bumpers, (almost), but its a brand new car and makes a
good "around town " conversion. using 13, 12 volt leads makes it a highway
car also, not to far but do-able. and for under 22$K . am I making a living
at it, you know I am.
If people want to start a EV business and charge a small amount, that's
their business. I charge what I think its worth, and haven't raised my
prices in 4 years .
Will McKinny made a very good point also, Shops are closing left and right .
why? who knows. maybe its just the times we live in.
Dennis have you ever driven in a S-10 with a 8,000 lb fork lift motor set at
156 volts??? Its violent on the street with full power . I broke a drive
shaft and a pinion yoke in mine . dont knock fork lift motors, that's all I
could find way back when , at first there weren't any controllers, I had to
use the contactor panel . BUT !!!! time marches forward, now we have very
neet motors and fire breathing controllers, exotic batteries with exotic
prices . The Leaf?? ugly as a toothless mother-in law and will do what us
converters are doing now, with out 1/2 billion dollars in R&D .
I still feel the Volt will be pulled and scraped like the EV1. just a
feeling I have .It wont do any more in full electric mode that any lead/acid
conversion will do . about 40 to 50 miles . It also had 1/2 billion $ in R&D
.
The small car/truck EV business needs go grow and move from that venue . I
have 2 scissor airport catering trucks coming to me to convert , then
aircraft push back tractors this is a wide open field. the push backs need
to move a 747 lower weight aircraft. Its also do-able . I am looking at a
newer building ,much larger I need the space, this equipment is large . Here
is where range is not important at all, just "time on station" .
My last pint to Dennis, why would any one buy a older car/truck, spent a tub
of money on it and still have an older vehicle thats now electric. Even
though I have done this for customers, over and over. Its their money, they
can spend it any way they want . Even me, i built my 82 ElCamino from a barn
squatter to a show car, a tub of money?? hell yes but its way damn cool .
I expect a ton of negative response soon LOLOLOL ev-blue.com
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You are almost always on the mark.... My feeling....if people have money to
spend to have me convert their cars, I don't care what the donor car is
(except a hummer as I have a psychological problem with that) as long as
their money is green. I agree with you on the Volt. It was suppose to be
at Carnegie Mellon and according to a friend they cancelled because all of
the Volts were "recalled" back to the factory...
Recalled....already? You have a great vision Wayne!!! How did you
know......
Sincerely;
Douglas A. Stansfield
President
www.TransAtlanticElectricConversions.com
973-875-6276 (office)
973-670-9208 (cell)
973-440-1619 (fax)
ELECTRIC CAR PRODUCERS
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Electric Blue auto convertions
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:13 AM
To: ev
Subject: [EVDL] point, counter point
Dennis made some good points about EV conversions, But he missed the big
one, starting with a rust bucket is foolish unless you have more money then
God. Right now in Wichita you can buy a 2010 Kia for about 9800$, Yes its a
shopping cart with bumpers, (almost), but its a brand new car and makes a
good "around town " conversion. using 13, 12 volt leads makes it a highway
car also, not to far but do-able. and for under 22$K . am I making a living
at it, you know I am.
If people want to start a EV business and charge a small amount, that's
their business. I charge what I think its worth, and haven't raised my
prices in 4 years .
Will McKinny made a very good point also, Shops are closing left and right .
why? who knows. maybe its just the times we live in.
Dennis have you ever driven in a S-10 with a 8,000 lb fork lift motor set at
156 volts??? Its violent on the street with full power . I broke a drive
shaft and a pinion yoke in mine . dont knock fork lift motors, that's all I
could find way back when , at first there weren't any controllers, I had to
use the contactor panel . BUT !!!! time marches forward, now we have very
neet motors and fire breathing controllers, exotic batteries with exotic
prices . The Leaf?? ugly as a toothless mother-in law and will do what us
converters are doing now, with out 1/2 billion dollars in R&D .
I still feel the Volt will be pulled and scraped like the EV1. just a
feeling I have .It wont do any more in full electric mode that any lead/acid
conversion will do . about 40 to 50 miles . It also had 1/2 billion $ in R&D
.
The small car/truck EV business needs go grow and move from that venue . I
have 2 scissor airport catering trucks coming to me to convert , then
aircraft push back tractors this is a wide open field. the push backs need
to move a 747 lower weight aircraft. Its also do-able . I am looking at a
newer building ,much larger I need the space, this equipment is large . Here
is where range is not important at all, just "time on station" .
My last pint to Dennis, why would any one buy a older car/truck, spent a tub
of money on it and still have an older vehicle thats now electric. Even
though I have done this for customers, over and over. Its their money, they
can spend it any way they want . Even me, i built my 82 ElCamino from a barn
squatter to a show car, a tub of money?? hell yes but its way damn cool .
I expect a ton of negative response soon LOLOLOL ev-blue.com
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