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Hello EV'rs,

For those that do not know me, I was one of the original EVDL members when this list was created way-way back in the 90's. Since then, I used what off-time I had (when not working-working-working) to help promote EVs, learn from the EVDL's wealth of EV knowledgeable people to empower me to have a 1985 S-10 Blazer converted to Electric, attend and or arrange EVents promoting EVs, testing and trying-out different off-the-shelf EV chargers, promote fast public EV charging by driving my 50 mile range PbSO4 pack'd EV conversion from Silicon Valley to Sacramento and back six different times, documenting these EVangel experiences with posts on the EVDL, ... plus a whole lot more.

Some might ask where are all these good EV deeds documented? The phrase the 'Internet is forever' did not seem to apply to me. Most of the 15 years worth of EV work I have done is no longer up. Even the EVDL archive does not have anything from before 2007.

EV-less: being in the wrong place at the wrong time, lost me the EV that served me so well for over 15 years (those that did not wish me well, got their way). It has been hard going through EV withdrawals, being away from the EVDL, not being able to do as much as I used to do for the EV cause, plus resolving all of life's other hardships.

...

But it is now the year 2010. We have a new administration in charge. The fat cats bilked the Gov for bailout$ (so they have less to fight EVs with), and not too long ago the public was made aware of $4+ a gallon petrol prices (see the future, feel the burn). Attitudes have changed.

Call me an optimist, for I see the same positive EV spirit and enthusiasm the EV community had in the 90's. Because of this, I decided to poke my head out and encourage people who have EVs to attend rallies and EVents promoting the EV cause. I fear without people knowing all that went on in the 90's, history will repeat itself, and the public will just get fooled-again.

This could be a rallying cry for old-timers that went through those days (briefly described in the movie 'Who Killed the Electric Car') to keep today's public aware of the same old sneaky tricks, oily-funded negative ads disseminating dis-information, and other dastardly deeds that companies that EVs threaten will do (have lots-o-money, will-corrupt).

I hope to make EVDL posts that help the EV cause. May it be announcing EVents, sharing of my fast public charging experiences, or whatever else to help. And at the same time, I want to learn of the new pack chemistries, and their charging management equipment, etc. (once an EV charging-nut, always a charging-nut).

Please direct any EVDL off-topic messages or comments off-list by emailing me directly.
Thanks,


Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter
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Welcome back Bruce!

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Glad to see you back, Bruce - we've missed you (well, at least some of us
have - just kidding).

Joseph H. Strubhar

Web: www.gremcoinc.com

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Parmenter" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:53 AM
Subject: [EVDL] re- introduction


> Hello EV'rs,
>
> For those that do not know me, I was one of the original EVDL members when
> this list was created way-way back in the 90's. Since then, I used what
> off-time I had (when not working-working-working) to help promote EVs,
> learn from the EVDL's wealth of EV knowledgeable people to empower me to
> have a 1985 S-10 Blazer converted to Electric, attend and or arrange
> EVents promoting EVs, testing and trying-out different off-the-shelf EV
> chargers, promote fast public EV charging by driving my 50 mile range
> PbSO4 pack'd EV conversion from Silicon Valley to Sacramento and back six
> different times, documenting these EVangel experiences with posts on the
> EVDL, ... plus a whole lot more.
>
> Some might ask where are all these good EV deeds documented? The phrase
> the 'Internet is forever' did not seem to apply to me. Most of the 15
> years worth of EV work I have done is no longer up. Even the EVDL archive
> does not have anything from before 2007.
>
> EV-less: being in the wrong place at the wrong time, lost me the EV that
> served me so well for over 15 years (those that did not wish me well, got
> their way). It has been hard going through EV withdrawals, being away from
> the EVDL, not being able to do as much as I used to do for the EV cause,
> plus resolving all of life's other hardships.
>
> ...
>
> But it is now the year 2010. We have a new administration in charge. The
> fat cats bilked the Gov for bailout$ (so they have less to fight EVs
> with), and not too long ago the public was made aware of $4+ a gallon
> petrol prices (see the future, feel the burn). Attitudes have changed.
>
> Call me an optimist, for I see the same positive EV spirit and enthusiasm
> the EV community had in the 90's. Because of this, I decided to poke my
> head out and encourage people who have EVs to attend rallies and EVents
> promoting the EV cause. I fear without people knowing all that went on in
> the 90's, history will repeat itself, and the public will just get
> fooled-again.
>
> This could be a rallying cry for old-timers that went through those days
> (briefly described in the movie 'Who Killed the Electric Car') to keep
> today's public aware of the same old sneaky tricks, oily-funded negative
> ads disseminating dis-information, and other dastardly deeds that
> companies that EVs threaten will do (have lots-o-money, will-corrupt).
>
> I hope to make EVDL posts that help the EV cause. May it be announcing
> EVents, sharing of my fast public charging experiences, or whatever else
> to help. And at the same time, I want to learn of the new pack
> chemistries, and their charging management equipment, etc. (once an EV
> charging-nut, always a charging-nut).
>
> Please direct any EVDL off-topic messages or comments off-list by emailing
> me directly.
> Thanks,
>
>
> Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter
> Get Amp'd - brucedp.150m.com
> Undo Petroleum everywhere
> % Recharge with Renewable Energy %
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Bruce,

It is nice to have you back on the list. What has been happening in your
life during all the time you have been missing? Are you still driving an
EV?

Gail

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Parmenter" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:53 AM
Subject: [EVDL] re- introduction


> Hello EV'rs,
>
> For those that do not know me, I was one of the original EVDL members when
> this list was created way-way back in the 90's. Since then, I used what
> off-time I had (when not working-working-working) to help promote EVs,
> learn from the EVDL's wealth of EV knowledgeable people to empower me to
> have a 1985 S-10 Blazer converted to Electric, attend and or arrange
> EVents promoting EVs, testing and trying-out different off-the-shelf EV
> chargers, promote fast public EV charging by driving my 50 mile range
> PbSO4 pack'd EV conversion from Silicon Valley to Sacramento and back six
> different times, documenting these EVangel experiences with posts on the
> EVDL, ... plus a whole lot more.
>

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No, I currently do not have an EV. Nor am I in a position to buy, build a
conversion, or have one made for me. I will have to go through EV-withdrawls
until life changes for me. I am focusing on a better diet, a daily exercise
routine, and following my VA Doctor's other instructions to try to offset
all the aging from years of being worked to death as a Customer Engineer
under terminated hp CEO carly fiorina.

...

btw, I knew there would be changes in the way the EVDL ran since I left, and
the EVDL Admin has already let me know to make a change because of member
complaints he received. Instead of placing EV4Sale posts individually for
members to comment on (as in the past), I will combine them into one post. I
acknowledged the request and will accommodate. While some may think people
can go look these up themselves, as you will see, the
EV4sale: $2000 97-Chevy S-10 Truck no-pack no-pem LA-area
post was an interesting discussion point.


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Bruce (and All),
Although I had already told you welcome back in an off-list e-mail,
now that I've caught up with the EVDL, I want to add that an old timer
like you should feel free to post EVerything that you want to!

Also, I agree with your comment, "The phrase the 'Internet is forever'
did not seem to apply to me.", so when I went to the link in your sig
below, I had fun reminiscing about the old NEDRA treks!
I think the following pics are from my first "out of state" trek:
http://brucedp01.150m.com/lvnedra01/lvnedra01-37.jpg
http://brucedp01.150m.com/lvnedra01/lvnedra01-38.jpg
And out of the three amigos, I think that I'm the only one still
monitoring this list. Although I recently got together with JB (John
Bryan, who did the original NEDRA video tapes), I have not seen Dave
Stensland since he moved over to the Least coast many moons ago, AND,
he no longer updates his website, www.megawattmotorworks.com. If you
want to hang with some of the NEDRA old timers in those pics, you'll
need to join their list at:
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA/
BB

> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:53:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Bruce Parmenter
>
> Hello EV'rs,
>
> For those that do not know me, I was one of the original EVDL members whe=
n this list was created way-way back in the 90's. Since then, I used what o=
ff-time I had (when not working-working-working) to help promote EVs, learn=
from the EVDL's wealth of EV knowledgeable people to empower me to have a =
1985 S-10 Blazer converted to Electric, attend and or arrange EVents promot=
ing EVs, testing and trying-out different off-the-shelf EV chargers, promot=
e fast public EV charging by driving my 50 mile range PbSO4 pack'd EV conve=
rsion from Silicon Valley to Sacramento and back six different times, docum=
enting these EVangel experiences with posts on the EVDL, ... plus a whole l=
ot more.
>
> Some might ask where are all these good EV deeds documented? The phrase t=
he 'Internet is forever' did not seem to apply to me. Most of the 15 years =
worth of EV work I have done is no longer up. Even the EVDL archive does no=
t have anything from before 2007.
>
> EV-less: being in the wrong place at the wrong time, lost me the EV that =
served me so well for over 15 years (those that did not wish me well, got t=
heir way). It has been hard going through EV withdrawals, being away from t=
he EVDL, not being able to do as much as I used to do for the EV cause, plu=
s resolving all of life's other hardships.
>
> ...
>
> But it is now the year 2010. We have a new administration in charge. The =
fat cats bilked the Gov for bailout$ (so they have less to fight EVs with),=
and not too long ago the public was made aware of $4+ a gallon petrol pric=
es (see the future, feel the burn). Attitudes have changed.
>
> Call me an optimist, for I see the same positive EV spirit and enthusiasm=
the EV community had in the 90's. Because of this, I decided to poke my he=
ad out and encourage people who have EVs to attend rallies and EVents promo=
ting the EV cause. I fear without people knowing all that went on in the 90=
's, history will repeat itself, and the public will just get fooled-again.
>
> This could be a rallying cry for old-timers that went through those days =
(briefly described in the movie 'Who Killed the Electric Car') to keep toda=
y's public aware of the same old sneaky tricks, oily-funded negative ads di=
sseminating dis-information, and other dastardly deeds that companies that =
EVs threaten will do (have lots-o-money, will-corrupt).
>
> I hope to make EVDL posts that help the EV cause. May it be announcing EV=
ents, sharing of my fast public charging experiences, or whatever else to h=
elp. And at the same time, I want to learn of the new pack chemistries, and=
their charging management equipment, etc. (once an EV charging-nut, always=
a charging-nut).
>
> Please direct any EVDL off-topic messages or comments off-list by emailin=
g me directly.
> Thanks,
>
>
> Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter
> Get Amp'd - brucedp.150m.com
> Undo Petroleum everywhere
> % Recharge with Renewable Energy %

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Hi David,

That web host does not allow for direct links, so it is likely =

the links you listed did not work. But people can bring up
http://brucedp01.150m.com/lvnedra01/

which has a link to the EVent images page
http://brucedp01.150m.com/lvnedra01/lvnedra01.html

scroll down 60% to the two thumbnail images labeled =

The Colorado trio . These can be clicked on to bring up the
images you wanted people to see.


For anyone that is curious: that EVent was in 2001, so if you =

click on the Fathertime's cycle link at the bottom of that =

page, you will see a Big Guy (me) as of about ten years ago ...
(when GW took over ... =BFCan you say hanging chad? ).
-Bruce



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David (Battery Boy) Hawkins wrote:
[...]
I had fun reminiscing about the old NEDRA treks!
I think the following pics are from my first "out of state" trek:
http://brucedp01.150m.com/lvnedra01/lvnedra01-37.jpg
http://brucedp01.150m.com/lvnedra01/lvnedra01-38.jpg
[...]


=


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The direct links worked fine (Firefox on XP here) =



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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behal=
f Of Bruce Parmenter
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 3:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVDL] re- introduction

Hi David,

That web host does not allow for direct links, so it is likely the links yo=
u listed did not work. But people can bring up http://brucedp01.150m.com/lv=
nedra01/

which has a link to the EVent images page http://brucedp01.150m.com/lvned=
ra01/lvnedra01.html

scroll down 60% to the two thumbnail images labeled The Colorado trio . T=
hese can be clicked on to bring up the images you wanted people to see.


For anyone that is curious: that EVent was in 2001, so if you =

click on the Fathertime's cycle link at the bottom of that =

page, you will see a Big Guy (me) as of about ten years ago ...
(when GW took over ... =BFCan you say hanging chad? ).
-Bruce



-
David (Battery Boy) Hawkins wrote:
[...]
I had fun reminiscing about the old NEDRA treks!
I think the following pics are from my first "out of state" trek:
http://brucedp01.150m.com/lvnedra01/lvnedra01-37.jpg
http://brucedp01.150m.com/lvnedra01/lvnedra01-38.jpg
[...]


=


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