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I will have my s10 at Firebird in chandler az.Friday oct.5.Gate opens at
6pm.do not miss the battery warming burnout at 7pm. I will be trying to set the
truck up to win a NHRA wally. Dennis Berube
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What is the Zilla currently set to and how high ultimately can you take it too?


What are you going to do with the "big motor" that is currently in the works?

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In a message dated 10/3/2007 8:12:41 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
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> Date:10/3/2007 8:12:41 PM US Mountain Standard Time
> From:[email protected]
> Reply-to:[email protected]
> To:[email protected]
> Received from Internet:
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> What is the Zilla currently set to and how high ultimately can you take it
> too?
>
> **1925 motor amps,260 volts,825 battery amps,210 battery volts
> What are you going to do with the "big motor" that is currently in the
> works?
> **The truck presently has the motor located in the tranny tunnel with just a
little in the engine compartment.I want to run the truck in the sc nedra class
but as I read the rules the motor must remain in the stock location.So I will
now be racing in Rod Wildes class instead of John Waylands class.But with the
long motor I can race in both classes at most of the volt limits since the
rest of the truck meets the sc specs.
Dennis Berube

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Dennis,
The Drivetrain section of the SC rules also states you must use the stock rearend housing too. Got a Ford 9" stuffed in that
stock Chevy housing ;-)

Mike,
Anchorage, Ak.

STREET CONVERSION CLASS RULES
...
Section 4: Drivetrain
...
Heavy duty and or modified rear axles, heavy duty and or modified front drive transaxles, and heavy duty and or modified rear
transaxles assemblies allowed so long as the stock housing is retained.

> -----Original Message-----
> Dennis Berube wrote:
>
> **1925 motor amps,260 volts,825 battery amps,210 battery volts
> What are you going to do with the "big motor" that is currently in the
> works?
> **The truck presently has the motor located in the tranny tunnel with just a
> little in the engine compartment.I want to run the truck in the sc nedra class
> but as I read the rules the motor must remain in the stock location.So I will
> now be racing in Rod Wildes class instead of John Waylands class.But with the
> long motor I can race in both classes at most of the volt limits since the
> rest of the truck meets the sc specs.
> Dennis Berube

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In a message dated 10/7/2007 12:05:59 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
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> Date:10/7/2007 12:05:59 AM US Mountain Standard Time
> From:[email protected]
> Reply-to:[email protected]
> To:[email protected]
> Received from Internet:
>
>
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> Dennis,
> The Drivetrain section of the SC rules also states you must use the stock
> rearend housing too. Got a Ford 9" stuffed in that
> stock Chevy housing ;-)
>
> Mike,
> Anchorage, Ak.
>
> STREET CONVERSION CLASS RULES
> ...
> Section 4: Drivetrain
> ...
> Heavy duty and or modified rear axles, heavy duty and or modified front
> drive transaxles, and heavy duty and or modified rear
> transaxles assemblies allowed so long as the stock housing is retained.
>
***My mistake,I meant I will be racing in the MC class and PS class,although
I do see a vech. with a 9 inch ford rear in the SC class with a record.
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Was looking back through the archive...don't know how I missed this one.

Yes Dennis, I intend to dispute it...once I can beat it ;-) I'm keeping
the Ford 8" that was in the Pinto and will build it up to the limit the SC
class rules allow. Once I can hit that record with the 9" rear, I'll drop
the 8" in. Its only gotta last two runs, eh?

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 5:12 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] S10 racing at Firebird
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> >
> > Electrabishi wrote
> >
> > Dennis,
> > The Drivetrain section of the SC rules also states you must use the
stock
> > rearend housing too. Got a Ford 9" stuffed in that
> > stock Chevy housing ;-)
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> >
> ***My mistake,I meant I will be racing in the MC class and PS
> class,although
> I do see a vech. with a 9 inch ford rear in the SC class with a record.


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Hello to Mike, Dennis, and All,

Dennis had written some time ago:

>***My mistake,I meant I will be racing in the MC class and PS
>class,although
>I do see a vech. with a 9 inch ford rear in the SC class with a record.
>
>

Mike Willmon wrote:

>Yes Dennis, I intend to dispute it...once I can beat it ;-)
>
>>>
>>>

For those not quite following what these two are talking about, I'll
make it clear. It's about White Zombie's SC/A record that was set
'before' the revamping of the class rules last year, a record of 12.151
@ 106.25 that still stands as the official record. This record is
justified, accurate, and deserved. That said, I totally agree with both
Dennis and Mike.

The new class 'PS' for 'Pro Street' was developed specifically because
of my car, White Zombie. The rules committee agreed that although WZ
was/is entirely street legal, it had/has become something 'more' over
time. Everyone, including me, acknowledged that certain items had become
part of the car in my never-ending quest to keep pushing the
limits...stuff that an otherwise more normal street EV probably wouldn't
have as merely a very quick street car. A racer's specific custom rear
axle, the non-factory Ford 9 inch racer's rear end with Detroit Locker,
31 spline axles, and such are all items installed to mostly keep the car
from breaking stuff 'at the track'.

As a result of trying to make it more fair for others to design, build,
and race their street legal EVs, a brand new set of rules were agreed
upon that prohibit certain 'race specific' parts to be used in the new
SC class. At the same time, the brand new PS class was developed that
would allow the use of these items, plus other track specific items not
previously allowed in the SC class like racing slicks, fender flairing,
etc., where cars like WZ could continue to push onward to lower ETs and
higher trap speeds while still not venturing into the MC (modified
conversion) class. Anyone really interested in this should visit the
NEDRA page and read the rules as they stand now, and it will become more
clear.

I have attempted to get the NEDRA board to modify White Zombie's
'official' records in the SC class, because even though when the records
were set there were no rules against the way the car was set up, the way
the new rules read, the car no longer fits into that category. It's not
fair for new street racers to try to beat a record set that allowed
items that helped a certain car to get to that level, while not allowing
them to use the same equipment. At the same time, it is also unfair to
not acknowledge the fact that WZ did accomplish and set these official
records...it's kind of a dilemma. WZ's SC/A and SC/B records both fall
into this debate.

I don't blame Dennis for bringing this up, or Mike for that matter. I
agree that this needs to be taken care of. Believe me, I tried several
times last year to get this done, but no action was ever taken by the
previous group. I would hope that these legally attained records could
somehow still be acknowledged at the NEDRA page, perhaps by placing an
asterisk denoting 'set before 2007 rule changes' at these records
reflecting that they do not meet the new class rules.

We all want the NEDRA rules to be fair, we all want as many racers as
possible, and we all want new records to be set. I do not believe
keeping two of the Zombie's three world records as they are, is
appropriate and side with my fellow electric drag racers on this subject.
On the other hand, I also do not think it's fair to simply wipe them
away as if they never happened. I hope the new NEDRA board can come up
with a way to rectify this situation.


See Ya.....John 'Plasma Boy' Wayland


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Thank you, John. That clears up quite a bit. I was wondering what the
issue was since WZ had that 9".


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