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I wondered if the motor gurus had a second....

I was just thinking.. why isn't there a stock motor built that did the
same thing as the various Siamese motors out there? That is to say,
twice the power by being -longer- and retaining the zippy RPM
performance?

--T

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I'm no motor guru, but it has to be one of two things. It does not make
economic sense or no one has thought of it.

The second seems unlikely since motors have been around a real long time and
everything seems to have been thought of and tried multiple times so I'm
going to have to go with the first. Either their manufacturing techniques
would make it cost prohibitive, or there is no real market for such a motor.

damon


>From: "Timothy Balcer" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>
>To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
>Subject: [EVDL] Siamese .. production?
>Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:17:37 -0400
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>I wondered if the motor gurus had a second....
>
>I was just thinking.. why isn't there a stock motor built that did the
>same thing as the various Siamese motors out there? That is to say,
>twice the power by being -longer- and retaining the zippy RPM
>performance?
>
>--T
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How about it Jim? Lets see there's the ADC 9, there's the WarP9, and the TransWarp9, how about a Hi-Torque 9? Design that dude 9" dia with a 30" housing. One big set of coils, multiple kevlar bands and one big 'ol huge commutator with 4-brush holders.......or just build the same basic Siamese 8 setup into a single solid housing. That would still give the ability of Series/Parallel shifting.....of course you would then lose the forklift market as potential buyers of this motor. But hey, get too many people into the NEDRA racing and you won't have time for them anyway ;-P

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From: damon henry <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, August 7, 2007 9:35 am
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Siamese .. production?
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> I'm no motor guru, but it has to be one of two things. It does not
> make
> economic sense or no one has thought of it.
>
> The second seems unlikely since motors have been around a real long
> time and
> everything seems to have been thought of and tried multiple times
> so I'm
> going to have to go with the first. Either their manufacturing
> techniques
> would make it cost prohibitive, or there is no real market for such
> a motor.
>
> damon
>
>
> >From: "Timothy Balcer" <[email protected]>
> >Reply-To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>
> >To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
> >Subject: [EVDL] Siamese .. production?
> >Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:17:37 -0400
> >
> >I wondered if the motor gurus had a second....
> >
> >I was just thinking.. why isn't there a stock motor built that did
> the>same thing as the various Siamese motors out there? That is to
> say,>twice the power by being -longer- and retaining the zippy RPM
> >performance?
> >
> >--T
> >
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--- Timothy Balcer <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 8/7/07, MIKE WILLMON <[email protected]> wrote:
> > How about it Jim? Lets see there's the ADC 9,
> there's the WarP9, and the TransWarp9, how about a
> Hi-Torque 9?

Hey Tim, Mike, all

I get asked this EVery few months, usually not
screamed across the internet though 8^o LMAO!

This really is a good time to address the fact that I
am much smaller than the pants I wear right now 8^)
It wasn't but just a short flash in the pan ago that I
opened my shop up. I wanted more freedom and less
whip from the last place I worked (which I set up for
them) and well when they didn't want anything to do
with Wayland it was a bit of a last straw 8^o In fact
John was my first sales call, just cause I'd been
stringing him along for months as I setup shop.

Anyway I'f one were to draw a line graph of where I
was then to where I am now, who knows 8^o Going into
Johns motors I surly didn't see this coming 8^) I
just wanted to tinker on a motor, LMAO.

> Design that dude 9" dia with a 30"
> housing. One big set of coils, multiple kevlar
> bands and one big 'ol huge commutator with 4-brush
> holders.......or just build the same basic Siamese 8
> setup into a single solid housing.

So far, each job I've done has had some unique flavor
or request and have ranged from 4"@20 lbs to 13"@350
lbs. Creating something is not the same as mass
producing it though. Like Jeff said an EE could
design ya lots of cool stuff but what are people
willing to pay for it, and what end net would you get
from it. By working with existing designs (and all of
you) I get to see real world failure points and
improve those areas. Not as cheap and effective as if
done at the factory but not as expesive as designing
and making your own motor either 8^)

> That would still
> give the ability of Series/Parallel shifting.....

I get asked all the time whether 2 smaller motors are
better than 1 bigger one. I think much depends on
what a person wants, needs, or is mostly restricted
to. Besides all the standard builds, all of the other
more drastic mods I've done are requested by people
who had no other choice or option.

Anyway what started out as a couple of sicko's seeing
if they could fuse two motors together electrically
backwards has led me to here 8^) God knows where I'll
be a couple years from now 8^o If the media frenzy
continues I'm going to need a press agent and an
e-mail typest, 8^P LMAO

I see there are more posts on this thread but I'm
pooped I'll add a few more thought's and insights
tomorrow as my brain is moosh now... and I need ice
cream 8^D I'll tell you what though I'll get on a
couple hundred pair of them just as soon as I can ;^)

Cya
Jim Husted
Hi-Torque Electric






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