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All this is really sad to hear. They have supplied a lot of kits to a
lot of folks in the past. I think they started up about 20 years ago.
I wonder what has changed recently, since they were quite good in the past.

Again, it is really sad to hear that folks are not getting the parts
they have paid for. I feel very lucky that this has never been my
personal experience.

Let me list a few the EV parts suppliers that I have dealt with
personally over the years and had 100% satisfaction with:

EVParts <http://www.EVparts.com>
KTA Services <http://www.kta-ev.com/>
Manzanita Micro <http://www.manzanitamicro.com/>
Kelly Controllers <http://www.kellycontroller.com/>
EVolve Electrics <http://www.evolveelectrics.com/>
Ebikes (Cycle Analyst SOC meter) <http://www.ebikes.ca/drainbrain.shtml>
Jim Husted (Motor magician) <http://www.jimerico.net/>

This is only a _partial_ list of the many great folks I have dealt
with, but I wanted to let you know that the good guys far outnumber
the "problem" vendors for EV parts. I think it is important that you
all hear about the many many folks that have made the effort to
provide good customer service.

Bill D.





Bill D.

At 10:09 AM 10/25/2010, you wrote:
>Also, as a somewhat related note:
>
>Electro Automotive has an F rating (the worst rating they give out) at the
>Better Business Bureau. It bears consideration that one should be very
>careful who they do business with. BBB is one place you can check to see how
>a business is doing. It's also good to ask on a list like this if you aren't
>sure about a business. But, that's water over the bridge for you.
>
>Best of luck to you.
>
>
Collin Kidder <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > If it has come to that then sue them in your local court. It won't be small
> > claims court I wouldn't think as you must be out more than the cap. You can
> > sue in your local court even if a business is not local. It's their problem
> > to send a representative on their behalf. Hopefully it does not come to
> > this.
> >
> > I doubt that ElCon has anything to do with what is going on. I've dealt
> > with the people at Zivan USA and they are very prompt.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Buddy Mills <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/28/10 Richard Hamje wrote:...To get my charger, I sent them a
> >> registered letter via USPS with return receipt, threatening legal action
> >> (which I was prepared to follow through on).
> >>
> >> I too am at the point where I need some outside action. Has anyone on the
> >> listserve taken legal action against Electro Automotive before? How did
> >> you
> >> go about it since it is a mail order type business and the physical
> >> locally
> >> is not close? Should I include ELCOM in this action? I have not
> >> contacted
> >> my lawyer yet because I want to get some more information and was hoping
> >> it
> >> would not come to this. I realize that it will most likely cost me more
> >> than the charger is worth but at this point it is the principle. If you
> >> would rather, please email me off the list.
> >>
> >> http://members.cox.net/rmill/chargerprob.shtml
> >>
> >>
> >> Buddy Mills
> >> [email protected]
> >>
> >> Look mom, no gas. http://www.evalbum.com/2887
> >>
> >> Disclaimer: No animals were harmed or killed in the process of writing
> >> this
> >> email. Any stories to the contrary are, for the most part, either
> >> fictional
> >> or greatly exaggerated.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Bill has a good point. These people have been highly regarded by the EV
community for a long time, have written books and articles and provided good
products and support. Perhaps someone could determine the cause of their
current lapses in service before jumping in with lawsuits and derogatory
comments. They may have suffered some sort of disaster from which they are
trying to recover. Is anyone on the list close enough to them to run over
and see what is happening?

Gail

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Dube" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 10:56 AM
Subject: [EVDL] There are _many_ good EV suppliers too (was: problems
Electro Automotive...)


> All this is really sad to hear. They have supplied a lot of kits to a
> lot of folks in the past. I think they started up about 20 years ago.
> I wonder what has changed recently, since they were quite good in the
> past.
>

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I hope to eventually meet the Electro Automotive folks since they are pioneers in the field. I live about 7 miles away from Felton and I tried to contact them when I was looking for a retailer but couldn't get ahold of them (back in May). Hopefully I can one day drive my EV bug down to them and say "hi".

--corbin



Gail Lucas wrote:

> Bill has a good point. These people have been highly regarded by the EV
> community for a long time, have written books and articles and provided good
> products and support. Perhaps someone could determine the cause of their
> current lapses in service before jumping in with lawsuits and derogatory
> comments. They may have suffered some sort of disaster from which they are
> trying to recover. Is anyone on the list close enough to them to run over
> and see what is happening?
>
> Gail
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Dube" <[email protected]>
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 10:56 AM
> Subject: [EVDL] There are _many_ good EV suppliers too (was: problems
> Electro Automotive...)
>
>
>> All this is really sad to hear. They have supplied a lot of kits to a
>> lot of folks in the past. I think they started up about 20 years ago.
>> I wonder what has changed recently, since they were quite good in the
>> past.
>>
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Hi Corbin,

Come on, finish that conversion already! ;-}

BTW, you may be 7 miles from Felton as the crow flies
but I expect that you go there over HW17 or if you want
a scenic route, 35 then Bear Creek and 9.
Anyway this will add many miles to the distance, probably
double it, depending how far you are down Hutchinson Rd.

Note that ElectroAuto have a mailbox in Felton but their
address is somewhere else, almost twice as far from you.
I have never visited them or even asked their address,
just using internet you can find almost anything you want
even while at the other side of the planet as in my case.
Google maps streetview even allows me to peek into their
back yard and see the orange VW in the back together
with about 6 other cars.
Of course that is a picture from several years ago, as it
also still shows my Prius in the driveway of the house
that we left more than 2 years back.
It also cannot tell me the health of Mr Brown or Mrs Prange
or the situation that developed here.
Often enough there is a logical explanation.
The other day I was ready to report a non-shipping seller
on Ebay when I received a flurry of apologies that he had
been life-threatening ill for almost a week and his wife
did not know how to operate his Ebay account...

In ElectroAuto's case it may even be as simple as being hit
with the same thing that we see no EVs sell for decent
prices...

Let's all wait to hear the story from the other side before
drawing conclusions.

Cor van de Water
Director HW & Systems Architecture Group
Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.com
Skype: cor_van_de_water IM: [email protected]
Tel: +1 408 383 7626 VoIP: +31 20 3987567 FWD# 25925
Tel: +91 (040)23117400 x203 XoIP: +31877841130

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of corbin dunn
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:10 AM
To: Gail Lucas; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] There are _many_ good EV suppliers too (was:
problems Electro Automotive...)

I hope to eventually meet the Electro Automotive folks since they are
pioneers in the field. I live about 7 miles away from Felton and I tried
to contact them when I was looking for a retailer but couldn't get ahold
of them (back in May). Hopefully I can one day drive my EV bug down to
them and say "hi".

--corbin



Gail Lucas wrote:

> Bill has a good point. These people have been highly regarded by the
> EV community for a long time, have written books and articles and
> provided good products and support. Perhaps someone could determine
> the cause of their current lapses in service before jumping in with
> lawsuits and derogatory comments. They may have suffered some sort of

> disaster from which they are trying to recover. Is anyone on the list

> close enough to them to run over and see what is happening?
>
> Gail
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Dube" <[email protected]>
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 10:56 AM
> Subject: [EVDL] There are _many_ good EV suppliers too (was: problems
> Electro Automotive...)
>
>
>> All this is really sad to hear. They have supplied a lot of kits to a

>> lot of folks in the past. I think they started up about 20 years ago.
>> I wonder what has changed recently, since they were quite good in the

>> past.
>>
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