---- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle Dansie"
> It all depends on who the Trojan dealer is. Some are good and some are
> downright sleazy. The one in SLC Utah is sleazy. Stay away from
> Standard battery on Redwood road.
or maybe new to the EV world , I sell parts and in the past have taken
quite a beating from people using them the wrong way . I have to sell
10 orders to cover one customer mistake just to brake even.
>
> The problem that I had with Trojan was on my motorcycle. The first set
> of batteries I bought were Costco "Deep Cycle" group 24 batteries.
> That set lasted about 500 mile.
Its common knowledge that deep cycle batteries don't do good as EV
batteries , why did you do this? I could see that the Costco sales
boy probably didn't know it and his boss probably didn't know it , so
you bought the wrong battery and when it didn't work Costco payed the
price ,, and I'll bet they still don't know what the problem was.
I returned them to the local Costco
> and they gave me a full cash refund. I told them thank you very much
> and drove to the local Trojan dealer cash in hand.
On to your second victim.
>
> I told the Trojan dealer that I wanted the best deep cycle battery
> they had and I needed it in a group 24 format.
More deep cycle batteries ..
I also told them I was
> installing them in an electric motorcycle.
This is the part where you feel you covered your self . If I go into a
gun shop and say I want bullets for deer hunting and then put them in
my home made zip gun which blows up in my face while shooting at a
dear , did I cover my self , should I get a refund.
They sold me a set of
> batteries and the receipt
said 48 month warranty. Fine I went home and
> installed the batteries. 18 months later and the Trojans were junk.
Are you still thinking Deep cycle batteries for your EV?
My
> 45 mile range had dropped to about 15 miles. I told them I wanted some
> new batteries. They told me to get lost.
>
Probably a different person. Some one who knew you had the wrong
batteries .. and this is who people who sell stuff need to be so
careful .
> Trojan batteries installed in an EV do not have a warranty period. Do
> not take my word for it, call the Trojan factory and ask them.>
> I argued with the store manager for about an hour before I left the
> batteries sitting on the dock and drove away. Next day I called the
> Trojan factory. Same story.
And what was that story ,, You asked for the wrong battery and were
unhappy with their performance.
>
> The Toyota truck was built BEFORE this happened with my motorcycle. If
> I had it to do over again I would buy Lithium batteries instead of
> floodies.
Well lets hope you do more research on Lithium's than you did on Deep
cycle batteries.
I may seem a little heartless here, but as a business trying to stay
afloat, with people that buy stuff and then break it because they
didn't hook it up right and want me to replace it ,, you guys are
killing me . Personally I don't know how the big guys do it .
>
> Right now I just hope this pack will last me long enough for the Leaf
> to get here and then I will be selling the Toyota pickup.
Steve Clunn
PS from Audrey: Getting the Leaf,,, IF it ever gets to market, isn't
going to solve any of your problems. You still have to be educated
and well informed. This site is one of the best sites on the internet
for "good" reliable information and feed back. If you really pay
attention to some of the "old guys", (Bob, Steve, Dennis, Roland and
LOTS more) as I have done over the last 5 years, you will find a
PLETHORA of information, GOOD, reliable, well researched and well
tested information. Don't ever TRY to REinvent the Wheel. These good
ole boys have made the mistakes, PAID the price... tested and
retested, talked and retalked and researched and RE researched every
EV component to death... they know what they are talking about. They
are not biased, they don't have an agenda, other than trying to HELP a
wannabe out, and take the EV movement to the next higher level of
success. Trust these guys... they WILL help.
Audrey
www.Greenshedconversions.com
>
> Cheers,
> KJD
> http://www.evalbum.com/3175
>
>
--
Tomorrows Ride TODAY !
Visit our shop web page at: www.Greenshedconversions.com
_______________________________________________
| REPLYING: address your message to [email protected] only.
| Multiple-address or CCed messages may be rejected.
| UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub
| OTHER HELP: http://evdl.org/help/
| OPTIONS: http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
From: "Kyle Dansie"
> It all depends on who the Trojan dealer is. Some are good and some are
> downright sleazy. The one in SLC Utah is sleazy. Stay away from
> Standard battery on Redwood road.
or maybe new to the EV world , I sell parts and in the past have taken
quite a beating from people using them the wrong way . I have to sell
10 orders to cover one customer mistake just to brake even.
>
> The problem that I had with Trojan was on my motorcycle. The first set
> of batteries I bought were Costco "Deep Cycle" group 24 batteries.
> That set lasted about 500 mile.
Its common knowledge that deep cycle batteries don't do good as EV
batteries , why did you do this? I could see that the Costco sales
boy probably didn't know it and his boss probably didn't know it , so
you bought the wrong battery and when it didn't work Costco payed the
price ,, and I'll bet they still don't know what the problem was.
I returned them to the local Costco
> and they gave me a full cash refund. I told them thank you very much
> and drove to the local Trojan dealer cash in hand.
On to your second victim.
>
> I told the Trojan dealer that I wanted the best deep cycle battery
> they had and I needed it in a group 24 format.
More deep cycle batteries ..
I also told them I was
> installing them in an electric motorcycle.
This is the part where you feel you covered your self . If I go into a
gun shop and say I want bullets for deer hunting and then put them in
my home made zip gun which blows up in my face while shooting at a
dear , did I cover my self , should I get a refund.
They sold me a set of
> batteries and the receipt
said 48 month warranty. Fine I went home and
> installed the batteries. 18 months later and the Trojans were junk.
Are you still thinking Deep cycle batteries for your EV?
My
> 45 mile range had dropped to about 15 miles. I told them I wanted some
> new batteries. They told me to get lost.
>
Probably a different person. Some one who knew you had the wrong
batteries .. and this is who people who sell stuff need to be so
careful .
> Trojan batteries installed in an EV do not have a warranty period. Do
> not take my word for it, call the Trojan factory and ask them.>
> I argued with the store manager for about an hour before I left the
> batteries sitting on the dock and drove away. Next day I called the
> Trojan factory. Same story.
And what was that story ,, You asked for the wrong battery and were
unhappy with their performance.
>
> The Toyota truck was built BEFORE this happened with my motorcycle. If
> I had it to do over again I would buy Lithium batteries instead of
> floodies.
Well lets hope you do more research on Lithium's than you did on Deep
cycle batteries.
I may seem a little heartless here, but as a business trying to stay
afloat, with people that buy stuff and then break it because they
didn't hook it up right and want me to replace it ,, you guys are
killing me . Personally I don't know how the big guys do it .
>
> Right now I just hope this pack will last me long enough for the Leaf
> to get here and then I will be selling the Toyota pickup.
Steve Clunn
PS from Audrey: Getting the Leaf,,, IF it ever gets to market, isn't
going to solve any of your problems. You still have to be educated
and well informed. This site is one of the best sites on the internet
for "good" reliable information and feed back. If you really pay
attention to some of the "old guys", (Bob, Steve, Dennis, Roland and
LOTS more) as I have done over the last 5 years, you will find a
PLETHORA of information, GOOD, reliable, well researched and well
tested information. Don't ever TRY to REinvent the Wheel. These good
ole boys have made the mistakes, PAID the price... tested and
retested, talked and retalked and researched and RE researched every
EV component to death... they know what they are talking about. They
are not biased, they don't have an agenda, other than trying to HELP a
wannabe out, and take the EV movement to the next higher level of
success. Trust these guys... they WILL help.
Audrey
www.Greenshedconversions.com
>
> Cheers,
> KJD
> http://www.evalbum.com/3175
>
>
--
Tomorrows Ride TODAY !
Visit our shop web page at: www.Greenshedconversions.com
_______________________________________________
| REPLYING: address your message to [email protected] only.
| Multiple-address or CCed messages may be rejected.
| UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub
| OTHER HELP: http://evdl.org/help/
| OPTIONS: http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
